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  • Pabmusic
    Full Member
    • May 2011
    • 5537

    Plumbing the depths

    A record company has begun a worldwide search for the singer who can sing a note so low that it is thought never to have been sung before.


    I can get a reasonable, if weak, D (but a seventh higher than wanted), so I'm out of the running.
  • Simon Biazeck

    #2
    Ideal weather for it!

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    • Miles Coverdale
      Late Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 639

      #3
      I don't know where they get the idea that the low B flat in Rachmaninov Vespers is the lowest note ever written. This piece has a low A.

      "To Thee we Sing" Op.27 No.6. Pavel ChesnokovSt. Petersburg Chamber Choir"Тебе поем" Op.27 №6. П.Г. ЧесноковСанкт-Петербургский камерный хор


      I'm not sure how successful the search for someone who can genuinely sing a low E (and make an even remotely pleasant noise while doing it) will be. Even the fantastic Russian bass in that video (the now sadly late Vladimir Pasjukov) might struggle to get down that far.

      On the other hand, it could all just be a publicity-generating exercise ...
      My boxes are positively disintegrating under the sheer weight of ticks. Ed Reardon

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      • Pabmusic
        Full Member
        • May 2011
        • 5537

        #4
        Originally posted by Miles Coverdale View Post

        I'm not sure how successful the search for someone who can genuinely sing a low E (and make an even remotely pleasant noise while doing it) will be...On the other hand, it could all just be a publicity-generating exercise ...
        I have to admit that my first thought (when I realised which composer it is ) was: Will this be some kind of reality TV search, probably with Andrew Lloyd Webber in it, and the viewers voting for who can sing the lowest note?

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        • EnemyoftheStoat
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1135

          #5
          Originally posted by Miles Coverdale View Post
          On the other hand, it could all just be a publicity-generating exercise ...
          I must admit that was my first thought and there's been no change. All that waffle about "a voice that can not only touch the heart with its sincerity and truth" doesn't help either. He'll be lucky to tick just the one box, let alone all the others.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30456

            #6
            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
            I have to admit that my first thought (when I realised which composer it is ) was: Will this be some kind of reality TV search, probably with Andrew Lloyd Webber in it, and the viewers voting for who can sing the lowest note?
            I know nothing, but my reaction was the same.

            If you live in a - what? culture? - where those deep basses are part of what you know, you compose music for them, I'd have thought. The concept of giving a part the lowest ever note, and then launching a search for someone who can sing it, doesn't seem to be musically inspired somehow. I'm an architect: I want to design the highest building in the world. Why?
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              #7
              It's the "list" culture, isn't it? Every month the cover of BBC Music Magazine screeches on about "The greatest" conductors, pianists, recordings, orchestras, concert halls, impressarios, violinists, interval snacks etc.

              If you're a composer of modest abilities, writing in a style that relies heavily on features over a hundred years old, then your only recourse is to go down the "lowest/highest note", "longest/shortest piece ever written for solo kazoo", "youngest/oldest/fattest soloist" path. Where Music History books fail to mention you, there's always the Guiness Book of Records.
              Last edited by ferneyhoughgeliebte; 03-02-12, 15:50. Reason: Changed "you're" to "your" (and set myself extra homework!)
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              • Simon

                #8
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

                If you're a composer of modest abilities, writing in a style that relies heavily on features over a hundred years old, then you're only recourse is to go down the "lowest/highest note", "longest/shortest piece ever written for solo kazoo", "youngest/oldest/fattest soloist" path. Where Music History books fail to mention you, there's always the Guiness Book of Records.
                You mean, like that silly idea of the "longest ever piece" that plays one note evry 20 years or something. Or "the only piece of "music" that has no music in it that lasts for nearly 5 minutes".

                Spot on, FHG - I couldn't agree more. Publicity-seeking gimmicks of little musical value, irrespective of the "style" that you are supposed to be writing in.

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                • ardcarp
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 11102

                  #9
                  Off topic, sort of, but we are really lucky to have a couple of bassi profundi in our neighbourhood. Both ex-lay clarks and both pushing 70, they have the most remarkable bottom notes...not just feeble f***s, but real, loud or soft as required, beautifully produced notes. They are much in demand for Rach, Tavener and much else. And usually when they're in the group the director will allow a few unofficial octave doublings on final chords. Lovely!

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                  • Simon

                    #10
                    Cat got your fingers, FHG?

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                    • Keraulophone
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1967

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Miles Coverdale View Post
                      I don't know where they get the idea that the low B flat in Rachmaninov Vespers is the lowest note ever written. This piece has a low A.
                      There's also one in Kodaly's Psalmus Hungaricus.

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                      • mercia
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8920

                        #12
                        a gentleman on Radio 4 demonstrated that the note Mr Mealor requires is achievable, albeit rather quietly

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Simon View Post
                          Cat got your fingers, FHG?
                          No: been in hospital recently and the stitches are itching! (Hence my bitchy earlier comments, perhaps: talk about reaching a low note!)
                          I shall cross swords with you when I feel less like I might pull something unpleasant.
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                          • Simon

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            No: been in hospital recently and the stitches are itching!
                            Sorry to hear that. Hope all has gone well. Do take care and get well soon!

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #15
                              MANY Thanks. So far so good, but it's taking its time and I find it difficult being a patient patient.

                              Best Wishes.
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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