Disservice to Byrd Masses

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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    Disservice to Byrd Masses

    How did William Byrd come to compose three mass settings when celebrating mass was banned?


    Suggest not bothering. Keep the blood-pressure down.
  • DracoM
    Host
    • Mar 2007
    • 12986

    #2
    Absolutely! Crikey!

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    • oddoneout
      Full Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 9271

      #3
      I'm afraid that after many attempts and disappointments I have learned not to bother with anything involving Mr Service - prevention better than cure...

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      • oddoneout
        Full Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 9271

        #4
        And, having had a quick trawl through the schedules, this would appear to be in effect the only acknowledgement by R3 of Tuesday's 400th anniversary of Byrd's birth, apart from CotW. Couldn't they have broken out of the "nothing earlier than 1850" rut the evening concerts seem to have got stuck in, for just one night?

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        • mopsus
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 828

          #5
          There was a survey of recordings of Byrd's music in Record Review on Saturday morning (discussed in a thread elsewhere on this forum).

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          • Petrushka
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 12308

            #6
            Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
            And, having had a quick trawl through the schedules, this would appear to be in effect the only acknowledgement by R3 of Tuesday's 400th anniversary of Byrd's birth, apart from CotW. Couldn't they have broken out of the "nothing earlier than 1850" rut the evening concerts seem to have got stuck in, for just one night?
            Forgive the correction, but I've seen the same mistake on the Forum already: July 4 is actually the 400th anniversary of Byrd's death not his birth, the date of which is unknown.
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • oddoneout
              Full Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 9271

              #7
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              Forgive the correction, but I've seen the same mistake on the Forum already: July 4 is actually the 400th anniversary of Byrd's death not his birth, the date of which is unknown.
              Apologies - reading too quickly and not checking. Doesn't make that much difference in terms of R3 attention though - surely it's worth a bit of celebration in the form of actual performance in an evening concert?

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #8
                Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                Apologies - reading too quickly and not checking. Doesn't make that much difference in terms of R3 attention though - surely it's worth a bit of celebration in the form of actual performance in an evening concert?
                Not any of the masses, as such,but https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001nh9d

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                • oddoneout
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 9271

                  #9
                  Having had the misfortune to hear the advert for the Byrd Listening Service episode several times yesterday and today has simply reinforced my reaction that the question "How did Byrd come to compose three mass settings when celebrating mass was banned?" is pretty pointless as phrased, particularly with something concerning faith. The ban didn't completely stop people celebrating Mass so why would it stop a composer writing masses, even if there was no certainty of them being used? Yes it was risky, but faith is something people have always taken risks for.

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 6932

                    #10
                    Listening to the programme now it’s actually pretty good though not as good as the COTW. The issue of Byrd’s Catholicism was well dealt with by the very articulate Stile Antico singer Kate Ashby interviewed in The Listening Service programme.

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                    • ardcarp
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11102

                      #11
                      Kate was the redeeming feature of the programme, I thought. She and her sister Emma are superb consort sopranos.....and I think other members of the Ashby family are on the London circuit.

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