Duruflé Requiem - Trinity Cambridge - Filmed in Paris - Released on Ash Wednesday

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  • Petrushka
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12329

    #16
    Originally posted by Keraulophone View Post
    We haven't heard it yet!
    Ah, but you wouldn't be flagging it up on here if she somehow fell short!
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • Keraulophone
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      • Nov 2010
      • 1972

      #17
      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
      if she somehow fell short!
      Not permitted in this cho

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      • Nick Armstrong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 26575

        #18
        Originally posted by mopsus View Post
        The Duruflé is in my experience a favourite piece to take on foreign choir tours, as it sounds dramatic even with just organ accompaniment.

        I actually prefer the piece performed with just organ. A point I was able to make to Monsieur & Madame Duruflé when I spent time at their flat a couple of years before his death.

        This, at the top of my score of the piece, remains a treasured memento of the occasion:

        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Dave2002
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          • Dec 2010
          • 18045

          #19
          Somewhere I have a CD - probably one of the multi-starred versions. It’s a work I’ve never really warmed to, and even a good live performance [I think it was good] recently didn’t persuade me otherwise, and I had rather hoped for a conversion.

          Chacun

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          • Pulcinella
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            • Feb 2014
            • 11111

            #20
            I don't know why, perhaps it's a strange harmonic progression, but there are two or three bars in the In paradisum that always jar for me: at the turnover in the vocal score, so the three bars from figure 101 (Chorus angelorum). I think I want a different resolution on the lor of lorum.


            PS: Very envious of Nick!
            Last edited by Pulcinella; 21-02-23, 19:30. Reason: PS added

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            • PeterboroughDiapason
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              • Mar 2012
              • 73

              #21
              Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

              I actually prefer the piece performed with just organ. A point I was able to make to Monsieur & Madame Duruflé when I spent time at their flat a couple of years before his death.

              I prefer the chamber orchestra version, e.g. https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...rufle-requiems

              Although I wouldn't be without Durufle's recording with full orchestra - in spite of the singing.

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
                • 11111

                #22
                Originally posted by PeterboroughDiapason View Post
                I prefer the chamber orchestra version, e.g. https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...rufle-requiems

                Although I wouldn't be without Durufle's recording with full orchestra - in spite of the singing.
                Do you know the Andrew Davis full orchestra version?

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                • Vox Humana
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                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1253

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  Do you know the Andrew Davis full orchestra version?
                  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Duruflé-Fau...r%2C146&sr=1-1
                  That's one of my desert island discs. This version isn't bad either. Much as I used to love playing the organ part in my playing days (I don't think I ever got to the end without damp eyes), there's no way an organ can match the colour of Durufle's orchestration. Who called him the best French orchestrator since Ravel? Davis's version first appeared on LP together with a wonderfully sumptuous performance of the Danse Lente from the Trois Danses. I wish he could have recorded all three; it would have been fantastic. Duruflé's own performance really doesn't do them justice.

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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
                    • 11111

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Vox Humana View Post
                    That's one of my desert island discs. This version isn't bad either. Much as I used to love playing the organ part in my playing days (I don't think I ever got to the end without damp eyes), there's no way an organ can match the colour of Durufle's orchestration. Who called him the best French orchestrator since Ravel? Davis's version first appeared on LP together with a wonderfully sumptuous performance of the Danse Lente from the Trois Danses. I wish he could have recorded all three; it would have been fantastic. Duruflé's own performance really doesn't do them justice.

                    Nor does the recent John Wilson recording, imho.
                    Do you know the version on this Apex recording:
                    Poulenc: Organ Concerto and Alain & Duruflé: Organ Works. Apex: 2564619122. Buy download online. Marie-Claire Alain (organ) Bamberger Symphoniker, Jean-Jacques Kantorow

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                    • Vox Humana
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                      • Dec 2012
                      • 1253

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

                      Nor does the recent John Wilson recording, imho.
                      Do you know the version on this Apex recording:
                      https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...le-organ-works
                      No, I don't. Thanks for that, Pulcinella. Another one to buy!

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                      • ardcarp
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11102

                        #26
                        Just watched the Duruflé Requiem film made at Église Saint-Eustache on TCC's Youtube channel. Very atmospheric with huge acoustic ambience and a large French organ. Singers and Sid Layton all doing it from memory. One only usually sees the back of his head in TCC chapel...with occasional glimpses of the pencil. However there were shots of his face today, which show how he communicates so brilliantly with his choir. If I had to make a criticism (and I don't really want to) it was that the sound engineering made the S and A (particularly) sounding as if heard from halfway down the nave. Many would like it like that, but I would have preferred a bit more 'presence' from them. T and B came over better as did Sops when loud and high. But it was a deeply 'spiritual' performance....that's the best word I can come up with. Lovers of the piece should not miss it!

                        Maurice Duruflé - Requiem, Op.9 (1947)1:06 I. Introit4:48 II. Kyrie8:40 III. Domine Jesu Christe18:13 IV. Sanctus21:29 V. Pie Jesu25:16 VI. Agnus Dei29:12 VI...

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                        • Vox Humana
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                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1253

                          #27
                          I'm jelly.

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                          • jonfan
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1450

                            #28
                            Authentic organ and superb choir and sound but I found the visuals awful, very distracting. Of all Requiems this is not an opera; the choir wanders off for the baritone solo and then wanders back. It all looks as though light bulbs were in short supply and then after the heavenly In Paradisum we watch the singers amble off as though they’re going for a McDonald (as they might be but we don’t need to see that).
                            There’s a far preferable experience on YouTube with the Lingen performance done on the same tour and visually at one with what one hears of this sublime work. One question, why was in house Sarah Henderson not playing cello in Paris?

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                            • Keraulophone
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1972

                              #29
                              Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                              the Lingen performance done on the same tour and visually at one with what one hears of this sublime work.

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                              • ardcarp
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11102

                                #30
                                but I found the visuals awful, very distracting
                                An example of a film maker showing the production of high art, warts and all. It's been quite an artistic trend for some time now.
                                I have to say I immediately spotted it for what it was (focus on one of the back desks scratching himself before the performance started) and was thus able to ignore it.

                                Thanks for that other link, K,

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