Resuming attendance at live broadcasts of Choral Evensong

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  • choralmike
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    • May 2017
    • 29

    Resuming attendance at live broadcasts of Choral Evensong

    Apologies if this has already been covered before. Until Covid-19 hit I had a personal project of wishing to attend as many live broadcasts of Choral Evensong as I could. When a live broadcast was advertised (usually the week before) the announcer would invite listeners to attend saying that they had to take their seats about half an hour before the broadcast began. Two questions: 1) have live broadcasts of Choral Evensong now resumed and 2) are listeners still being invited to attend?
  • Pulcinella
    Host
    • Feb 2014
    • 10691

    #2
    Originally posted by choralmike View Post
    Apologies if this has already been covered before. Until Covid-19 hit I had a personal project of wishing to attend as many live broadcasts of Choral Evensong as I could. When a live broadcast was advertised (usually the week before) the announcer would invite listeners to attend saying that they had to take their seats about half an hour before the broadcast began. Two questions: 1) have live broadcasts of Choral Evensong now resumed and 2) are listeners still being invited to attend?
    Hello Mike!
    That's quite a project, but I remember it.

    The answers are both Yes, but to the first question with the recognition that there are not so many as there used to be. Whether or not that will change is anyone's guess.
    And of course members of the public can attend: it's a service open to all.

    I was at the one in York Minster earlier this year:



    Good luck!

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    • ardcarp
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11102

      #3
      but [.........] that there are not so many as there used to be
      Sadly, that is so.

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      • choralmike
        Full Member
        • May 2017
        • 29

        #4
        It is a shame if not so many are going to be broadcast live. Sadly, I noticed that there was a decline in these even before the pandemic.

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        • subcontrabass
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 2780

          #5
          The decline seems to have happened since 2016. Up to then there were 40+ live broadcasts each year. In 2017 these were down to 36 and in 2018 down to 30.

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          • ardcarp
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 11102

            #6
            I understand there's a live broadcast, not CE, somewhere in London today. Will you be there, choralmike? I am glad, by the way, that the Purcell and Croft Funeral Sentences are still de rigueur. (Wm Croft's music was my postgrad subject.) In general. I'd like there to be more of the Croft-Greene-Boyce generation of composers represented in cathedral music lists.

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            • Peanut
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              • Feb 2015
              • 31

              #7
              Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
              The decline seems to have happened since 2016. Up to then there were 40+ live broadcasts each year. In 2017 these were down to 36 and in 2018 down to 30.
              That was the moment the squeeze on the Beeb's budgets really started to restrict the number of live broadcasts from the traditional costlier venues where evensong is sung during the term, day in, day out, and also an increase in the number of broadcasts using cheaper choirs such as schools, university chapels, and education projects which, in many cases, don't sing the daily office and, dare I say it, whilst often singing beautifully, don't have the service in their blood.

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              • Finzi4ever
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                • Nov 2010
                • 580

                #8
                Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                I understand there's a live broadcast, not CE, somewhere in London today. Will you be there, choralmike? I am glad, by the way, that the Purcell and Croft Funeral Sentences are still de rigueur. (Wm Croft's music was my postgrad subject.) In general. I'd like there to be more of the Croft-Greene-Boyce generation of composers represented in cathedral music lists.
                Couldn't agree more: there are plenty of excellent verse anthems from which to choose.

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                • Ein Heldenleben
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 6580

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Peanut View Post
                  That was the moment the squeeze on the Beeb's budgets really started to restrict the number of live broadcasts from the traditional costlier venues where evensong is sung during the term, day in, day out, and also an increase in the number of broadcasts using cheaper choirs such as schools, university chapels, and education projects which, in many cases, don't sing the daily office and, dare I say it, whilst often singing beautifully, don't have the service in their blood.
                  Interesting - it had never occurred to me that the choirs and chapels etc featured are paid. How very naive of me.

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                  • oddoneout
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 8971

                    #10
                    This should perhaps be on a new thread but it isn't completely unrelated to some of the above comments
                    Martin V. Clarke Martin V. Clarke is a Lecturer in Music at The Open University, UK, and a Co-Investigator on the second phase of the Listening Experience Database (LED) project. His research inter…

                    Apologies if it's already been brought to forumites' attention.

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                    • Peanut
                      Full Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 31

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                      Interesting - it had never occurred to me that the choirs and chapels etc featured are paid. How very naive of me.
                      Musicians' Union fees for six or more layclerks, live links from the location back to BBC base etc never come for free.

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                      • Ein Heldenleben
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 6580

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Peanut View Post
                        Musicians' Union fees for six or more layclerks, live links from the location back to BBC base etc never come for free.
                        That’s surprisingly little money really . Sat links are way cheaper than they were and they probably use IP these days . The big cost is the OB truck , the production staff and the engineers and their overnights. Those costs are the same whether it’s Kings College Chapel or me and a few mates singing down the pub - though the latter would probably be a fairly simple mic rig. Cutting the number of relays really saves money though.
                        PS I hope they pay the organist…

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                        • Keraulophone
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1943

                          #13
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                          Recent practice halves the number of live broadcasts of Choral Evensong by recording one service the day before for later transmission and sending out a live broadcast on the following day, a Wednesday. When visiting the far south-western approaches, the production and engineering staff stay overnight (the BBC-listed hotel is a very comfortable one!), affording many of us the opportunity to make an enjoyable social occasion of it in the nearest pub and Nepalese restaurant.

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                          • Ein Heldenleben
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 6580

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Keraulophone View Post
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                            Recent practice halves the number of live broadcasts of Choral Evensong by recording one service the day before for later transmission and sending out a live broadcast on the following day, a Wednesday. When visiting the far south-western approaches, the production and engineering staff stay overnight (the BBC-listed hotel is a very comfortable one!), affording many of us the opportunity to make an enjoyable social occasion of it in the nearest pub and Nepalese restaurant.
                            Where do they stay ? Alverton Manor ?

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                            • Keraulophone
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1943

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                              Where do they stay ? Alverton Manor ?
                              Right-on! (as they say in these parts, though possibly not in the Alverton).
                              .

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