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  • DracoM
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    • Mar 2007
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    CE: Truro Cathedral Wed, Feb 3rd 2021 [A]

    CE: Truro Cathedral [A]
    First broadcast 3 February 2016


    Order of Service:


    Introit: Prevent us O Lord (Byrd)
    Responses: Byrd
    Psalm 18 (Parry, Macpherson, Atkins)
    First Lesson: Isaiah 61: 1-9
    Canticles: The Great Service (Parsons)
    Second Lesson: Luke 7: 18-30
    Anthem: Simile est regnum caelorum (Guerrero)
    Prayer anthem: Ave Maria (Josquin)
    Hymn: Now thank we all our God (Nun Danket)

    Voluntary: Cathedral Windows (Ave Maria) (Karg-Elert)


    Luke Bond (Assistant Director of Music)
    Christopher Gray (Director of Music)

  • kernelbogey
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    #2
    What does [A] signify please?

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    • Simon Biazeck
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      #3
      Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
      What does [A] signify please?
      A = Archive, i.e. not a direct broadcast; a repeat
      Last edited by DracoM; 01-02-21, 11:24.

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      • kernelbogey
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        #4
        Thanks.

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        • DracoM
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          • Mar 2007
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          #5
          Originally posted by Simon Biazeck View Post
          Archive, i.e. not a direct broadcast; a repeat
          Hence the DATE attached - to indicate when first broadcast.

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          • Simon Biazeck
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            • Jul 2020
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            #6
            Originally posted by DracoM View Post
            Hence the DATE attached - to indicate when first broadcast.
            Why the touchy response, or am I misreading you?

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            • Simon Biazeck
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              • Jul 2020
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              #7
              Originally posted by DracoM View Post
              Hence the DATE attached - to indicate when first broadcast.

              And why are you editing my post? That's rather impertinent.

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              • ardcarp
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Calm, everyone. Let's just enjoy Wednesday's broadcast! I'm looking forward especially to the Parsons canticles.
                Karg Elert is a sometimes 'sniffed at' composer. I seem to remember that some of his organ works are designated for organ OR harmonium. I assume Cathedral Windows is not one such. Like most organists, I have played Nun Danket to death, which is a very effective postlude and liked by many...even the way I play it!
                Last edited by ardcarp; 01-02-21, 12:28.

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                • BasilHarwood
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                  Hence the DATE attached - to indicate when first broadcast.
                  I keep saying to myself that I should stop reading this forum...

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                  • ardcarp
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    ...but I hope you won't! We've had a period of relative peace, which I for one have enjoyed very much.

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                    • DracoM
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                      • Mar 2007
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                      #11
                      Apologies for any offence!
                      Genuinely thought I was helping to highlight for apparently puzzled poster.

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                      • Miles Coverdale
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                        I'm looking forward especially to the Parsons canticles.
                        The more usual title for the Parsons is the First Service, under which it was printed in John Barnard's First Book of Selected Church Musick in 1641. It was only given the name 'Great' rather later in an attempt to hitch a ride on the coat-tails of Byrd's Great Service. It's characterised by dense, at times almost canonic imitation in up to seven parts. Its main drawback in my view is that it's harmonically a bit limited, and doesn't stray too far from F major.
                        My boxes are positively disintegrating under the sheer weight of ticks. Ed Reardon

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                        • ardcarp
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                          #13
                          Wiki on Robert Parsons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Parsons_(composer)

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                          • DracoM
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                            • Mar 2007
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                            #14
                            His Ave Maria is one to move every heart.

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                            • Vox Humana
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Miles Coverdale View Post
                              The more usual title for the Parsons is the First Service, under which it was printed in John Barnard's First Book of Selected Church Musick in 1641. It was only given the name 'Great' rather later in an attempt to hitch a ride on the coat-tails of Byrd's Great Service. It's characterised by dense, at times almost canonic imitation in up to seven parts. Its main drawback in my view is that it's harmonically a bit limited, and doesn't stray too far from F major.
                              It's worth emphasising that the modern Great/Short categorisation of Tudor services is a modern fiction. As has been pointed out (by Richard Turbet) there are only two Great Services that have any claim to having been called such in their day: Byrd's and Tomkins's: Tomkins was a pupil of Byrd, of course.

                              Parsons did have a liking for dense textures. Deliver me from mine enemies and the superb Retribue servo tuo are other examples. I'm not sure how much modulation we should expect prior to Tallis. Yes, Parsons was a younger composer, but the influences on him strike me as having been primarily Sheppard and Byrd. I don't hear much Tallis in his music. He is a fascinating composer, still woefully under-rated. His Domine quis habitabit is worth anyone's attention. The Latin Magnificat gets slagged off by some, but I think it's superb. The array of canonic writing is pretty accomplished. It's just a shame that it lacks so much of its treble part. End of advert.

                              Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                              The Wackypedia entry on Parsons is a bit dodgy. I keep thinking I should rewrite it, but I don't have the time. For example, we know from the Chapel Royal cheque books that he drowned at Newark, but there is no mention of the River Trent and to assume that he drowned in the river perhaps risks creating an impression that may be not quite on the nail. The thing is, in the sixteenth century the whole area was prone to flooding from the Trent and it seems to have been notorious for claiming lives. In 1638 Richard Braithwaite's 'Drunken Barnaby' visited the town:

                              Veni New-wark, ubi vivos
                              Sperans mersos esse rivis,
                              Irrui cellam subamoenam,
                              Generosis vinis plenam.
                              Donec Lictor intrans cellam,
                              Me conduxit at flagellum.

                              which, in an edition of 1762, was translated as:

                              Thence to New-wark, flood-surrounded –
                              Where I hoping most were drowned;
                              Hand to hand I straitways shored
                              To a Cellar richly stored:
                              Till suspected for a Pick-lock,
                              Th’Beadle led me to the Whip-stock.

                              Who knows exactly where Parsons drowned? It may not have been in the river itself.

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