Westminster Cathedral : Martin Baker resigned

[Resurgam]

[QUOTE=mw963;781319]The Telegraph has an in-depth story about a family from Wales whose three sons have had to abandon the school and the choir.

Needless to relate the Catholic hierarchy comes out of it badly, particularly an arrogant refusal by Nichols to see the family. He does sound totally out of touch and rather aloof (and I'm choosing my words very carefully there). [QUOTE]

The headmaster, who wanted to end full boarding in the first place, should hang his head in shame at the effect on this family. He must have known that it would be impossible for them to travel from Wales each Sunday.

[mw963]

Touched a nerve

Coverage has been pretty wide I think:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/21/westminster-cathedral-to-review-sacred-music-after-master-resigns

Couldn't find anything for you in the Daily Mail, mw963

Th only nerve touched was yours ocarina, no one else is going off at a tangent to talk about the merits of various newspapers. Out of the blue along you come and jump on what is apparently your hobby horse.

If you wasted less time on politics and more on Westminster Cathedral it might be better for all of us.

I try to remain civil on this and other forums, and don't expect irrelevant needling like this. I merely quoted a source, why have a go first at that source, then at me? What a shame you have to divert from such an important subject.

Incidentally, nothing wrong with the article from The Guardian. Thank you for pointing it out.

[DracoM]

Am listening to the last Cd from Drome / Baker, and it is worth it. But as it plays, it just nails home the misery of the likely future implications behind this awful mess the Baker resignation has so brought out into the open.

How on earth any group could - by action design, clumsiness, inaction or ignorance or whatever - be allowing this disaster to reach this point defies logic.

[ocarina]

Th only nerve touched was yours ocarina, no one else is going off at a tangent to talk about the merits of various newspapers. Out of the blue along you come and jump on what is apparently your hobby horse.

If you wasted less time on politics and more on Westminster Cathedral it might be better for all of us.

I try to remain civil on this and other forums, and don't expect irrelevant needling like this. I merely quoted a source, why have a go first at that source, then at me? What a shame you have to divert from such an important subject.

Incidentally, nothing wrong with the article from The Guardian. Thank you for pointing it out.

Sorry you feel needled and that I had a go at you.

You appear to have concluded a lot about me from two short, tong-in cheek comments.

I was picking up on Miles Coverdale's highlight of the alumnus/alumni error in the Telegraph, which reminded me of an article I read about that newspaper earlier in the week and so I saw fit to share it. I didn't express my own opinion about either publication.

As a practising RC, former organ scholar at an RC cathedral, sometime pilgrim to Westminster and oftentime listener to their CD catalogue, I am as disappointed as many here.

[ardcarp]

Mrs A and I spent a lovely evening here in France with an RC priest. He trained at a seminary in Rome, where they apparently referred to the choir of St Peter’s as The Holy Screamers. WCC is known by those priests with an interest in music as the pinnacle. He also said the best they could do in the Carcassone region was Kum by Ya on the guitar. He was a lovely bloke.

[ocarina]

Mrs A and I spent a lovely evening here in France with an RC priest. He trained at a seminary in Rome, where they apparently referred to the choir of St Peter’s as The Holy Screamers. WCC is known by those priests with an interest in music as the pinnacle. He also said the best they could do in the Carcassone region was Kum by Ya on the guitar. He was a lovely bloke.

Nice organs in languedoc esp st nazaire carcassonne!

[DracoM]

St Nazaire Carcassonne - totally agree - an uplifting joy.

[Nevilevelis]

Mrs A and I spent a lovely evening here in France with an RC priest. He trained at a seminary in Rome, where they apparently referred to the choir of St Peter’s as The Holy Screamers. WCC is known by those priests with an interest in music as the pinnacle. He also said the best they could do in the Carcassone region was Kum by Ya on the guitar. He was a lovely bloke.

How long ago was that? They don't don't sound like that any more - quite the opposite, but they're not great - tuning issues. The DoM has cloth ears and is obsessed with ppp, accents and bizarre dynamic schemes found in baroque mss of late Renaissance Polyphony.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-Lkry-SF2&hsimp=yhs-SF2&hspart=Lkry&p=sistine+chapel+choir#id=9&vid=f6f75c921924e0a44f90788c53566e83&action=click

NVV

[Miles Coverdale]

I’m afraid you're behind the times. Mgr Palombella ‘concluded his duties’ last July.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/10/sistine-chapel-choir-director-resigns-fraud-allegations/

[Nevilevelis]

I’m afraid you're behind the times. Mgr Palombella ‘concluded his duties’ last July.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...d-allegations/

Sharp-tongued and smart as ever - "thanks". To be fair, I don't really follow them - it's not very appealing as a sound. A pity.

NVV.

[Miles Coverdale]

Sharp-tongued and smart as ever - "thanks". To be fair, I don't really follow them - it's not very appealing as a sound. A pity.

If that was aimed at me, I'm not sure what was ‘sharp-tongued’ or ‘smart’ about my post. In any case, you’re welcome.

[ardcarp]

How long ago was that?

I guess the priest's age (I didn't ask hm!) was mid-60's, so he'd have been in Rome in the early 1980s probably. We'd all had a few glasses of Bordeaux, so the fine details seemed unimportant at the time! Forgive my ignorance, but is it the Sistine Chapel Choir which provides music for St Peter's?

[DracoM]

If any memory of what has been lost needs to be treasured, it could be this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjBACjJVB4Y

[ardcarp]

Vincent Nichols was on R4's Today programme, near the end.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000h25b

Good point: He said that Mass would be said every day in RC churches by the priest. (As opposed to Anglican churches which it was implied have been shut...even to their incumbents.)

Less good point: He seemed less keen to respond to the interviewer and more keen to air theological dogma...and the bit I found particularly distasteful was the likeneing of Christ's 'suffocation' on the cross to the death by suffocation of Covid victims. No doubt his faith makes him see things rather differently from little old me.

This may not be the right place for this. It did follow an item including online music from All Souls.

[DracoM]

A man without a mission?