CE In memory of Sir Stephen Cleobury 27.xi.2019

[DracoM]

CE In memory of Sir Stephen Cleobury 27.xi.2019

Recording of the Feb 2016 Live broadcast from the Chapel of King's College, Cambridge [R]

Order of Service:


Organ Prelude: Vater unser in Himmelreich BWV 683 (Bach)
Introit: Herr, gedenke nicht (Mendelssohn)
Responses: Byrd
Psalm 119: 1-32 (Atkins, Hayes)
First Lesson: Job 1: 6-22
Deutsches Magnificat (Schütz)
Second Lesson: Luke 21 v.34 - 22 v.6
Nunc Dimittis quarti toni (Palestrina)
Anthem: Denn alles Fleisch (German Requiem - Brahms)

Organ Voluntary: Duetto II BWV 803 (Bach)

Organ Scholars: Tom Etheridge and Richard Gowers
Director of Music: Stephen Cleobury

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000bnkk

[Y Mab Afradlon]

I must say that the Cleobury Love in that the Choral Evensong team has kicked in big time. Some of us don't want to listen to his over-rated choir and would have preferred to have listened to the Windsor broadcast.

[Wychwood]

Thank you, DracoM, for posting details of the service. I am glad the BBC has changed the schedule to honour the memory of Sir Stephen. My thoughts are with his widow and their family at this poignant time as Advent approaches.

[W.Kearns]

Thank you, DracoM, for posting details of the service. I am glad the BBC has changed the schedule to honour the memory of Sir Stephen. My thoughts are with his widow and their family at this poignant time as Advent approaches.

Agreed, Wychwood, and thank you for posting.

[Tony Halstead]

I must say that the Cleobury Love in that the Choral Evensong team has kicked in big time. Some of us don't want to listen to his over-rated choir and would have preferred to have listened to the Windsor broadcast.

[oddoneout]

I must say that the Cleobury Love in that the Choral Evensong team has kicked in big time. Some of us don't want to listen to his over-rated choir and would have preferred to have listened to the Windsor broadcast.

You don't have to listen.

[Y Mab Afradlon]

You don't have to listen.

I wanted to listen to the original scheduled broadcast but sadly the death of someone who has had a disproportionate reaction on the schedule is something that we have to put up with. Where was the tribute to Peter Hurford? No one rushed to commemorate Philip Ledger's death with a archive broadcast? John Scott and to wait a few weeks, and I could go on. I am so bored with this forum that this has given me the opportunity to see it for what is is. Enjoy your broadcasts but you really should think about what you've missed in terms of the quality of singing and playing that was contained in the Windsor broadcast that was cast aside. This group is not serious about standards. So will the BBC change the schedule for every noted Church Musician that has died or just pick and choose?

[Gabriel Jackson]

I must say that the Cleobury Love in that the Choral Evensong team has kicked in big time. Some of us don't want to listen to his over-rated choir and would have preferred to have listened to the Windsor broadcast.

I have no idea who you are, with your your stupid pseudonym, but you're talking bollocks. There are many people, on this forum and elsewhere, who have enormous affection and respect for Stephen Cleobury and what he achieved over very many years, with all the choirs he worked with, and if people want to celebrate, and remember his outstanding work over many decades, then why shouldn't they? So you don't want to listen his choir (which one?)? Fine. grow up big man (I'm sure you are a man - no woman would be be so petty and childish), get out of your diapers and understand that some people achieve something in their lives, and others bitch from the sidelines. I know what side he was on, and what side I, and many others are on. You're pathetic.

[Vox Humana]

I have no idea who you are, with your your stupid pseudonym

How is that pseudonym stupid? It's perfectly unremarkable.

Thanks to his long and distinguished career, Stephen Cleobury must have been better known than any other organist alive today and not only to musicians. That, surely, is sufficient reason to commemorate his passing. Whether his choir or Mr Robinson's choir was the better is hardly the issue in the circumstances. One could argue that he deserves a whole, tailor-made programme rather than just an evensong pulled out of the drawer. Maybe he'll get one in due course. It's a shame about Windsor, but entirely understandable. Perhaps the BBC will let us hear it at a later date.

[Y Mab Afradlon]

I have no idea who you are, with your your stupid pseudonym, but you're talking bollocks. There are many people, on this forum and elsewhere, who have enormous affection and respect for Stephen Cleobury and what he achieved over very many years, with all the choirs he worked with, and if people want to celebrate, and remember his outstanding work over many decades, then why shouldn't they? So you don't want to listen his choir (which one?)? Fine. grow up big man (I'm sure you are a man - no woman would be be so petty and childish), get out of your diapers and understand that some people achieve something in their lives, and others bitch from the sidelines. I know what side he was on, and what side I, and many others are on. You're pathetic.

I may be all these things, and I'm sorry that you find the language I use for my pseudonym stupid, but it's my opinion and to me that counts. I may not have received your privileged education or achieved as much as you or Mr Cleobury did in music but that doesn't give you the right to comment in such a derogatory way. Mocking someone's language and disrespecting their views may be fine in your eyes but it also rude. I am entitled to my opinion and if the moderators see fit to delete it or take action against me so be it but until then you on the other hand may want to reflect on how you treat others on this site.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Thanks to his long and distinguished career, Stephen Cleobury must have been better known than any other organist alive today and not only to musicians. That, surely, is sufficient reason to commemorate his passing. Whether his choir or Mr Robinson's choir was the better is hardly the issue in the circumstances. One could argue that he deserves a whole, tailor-made programme rather than just an evensong pulled out of the drawer. Maybe he'll get one in due course. It's a shame about Windsor, but entirely understandable. Perhaps the BBC will let us hear it at a later date.

I think that this rather sums up my own attitude to the rescheduling. But Mab's point about Peter Hurford, Philip Ledger, and others is a perfectly valid one - perhaps Mab's comments & opinions would be better "placed", given the timing, on a separate Thread discussing the relative merits of Cathedral DoMs, past & present?

[Gabriel Jackson]

I may be all these things, and I'm sorry that you find the language I use for my pseudonym stupid, but it's my opinion and to me that counts. I may not have received your privileged education or achieved as much as you or Mr Cleobury did in music but that doesn't give you the right to comment in such a derogatory way. Mocking someone's language and disrespecting their views may be fine in your eyes but it also rude. I am entitled to my opinion and if the moderators see fit to delete it or take action against me so be it but until then you on the other hand may want to reflect on how you treat others on this site.

You're right. I was intemperate and rude. I apologise.

[DracoM]

Phew! Can we cool it a little!
Let the music-making speak for itself, perhaps?

[ardcarp]

[underthecountertenor]

I wanted to listen to the original scheduled broadcast but sadly the death of someone who has had a disproportionate reaction on the schedule is something that we have to put up with. Where was the tribute to Peter Hurford? No one rushed to commemorate Philip Ledger's death with a archive broadcast? John Scott and to wait a few weeks, and I could go on. I am so bored with this forum that this has given me the opportunity to see it for what is is. Enjoy your broadcasts but you really should think about what you've missed in terms of the quality of singing and playing that was contained in the Windsor broadcast that was cast aside. This group is not serious about standards. So will the BBC change the schedule for every noted Church Musician that has died or just pick and choose?

Re Peter Hurford - as I recall, tributes were paid to him, both on several programmes on Radio 3 and here, shortly after his death was announced. There may not have been an archive recording of an evensong from St Albans under his direction but (as has been pointed out elsewhere) the evensong recorded at St Albans recently for broadcast in January was (in its choice of music) in itself a tribute to him.