CE Southwell Minster on Easter Day April 21st 2019 [L]

[DracoM]

CE Southwell Minster on Easter Day


Order of Service:


Introit: Haec dies (Byrd)
Responses: Philip Moore
Office hymn: The day draws on (Resurrexit)
Psalm 105 (Murrill, Atkins)
First Lesson: Isaiah 43: 1-21
Canticles: Evening Service in D (Dyson)
Second Lesson: 1 Corinthians 15: 1-11
Anthem: Light of the world (Elgar)
Hymn: Love’s redeeming work is done (Savannah)

Voluntary: Choral-Improvisation sur le Victimae Paschali laudes (Tournemire)


Simon Hogan (Assistant Director of Music)
Paul Provost (Rector Chori)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0004dpj

[DracoM]

Reminder: today @ 3 p.m.

[mopsus]

I thought the choir sounded a bit tired in places (as well they might be). And the spoken prayers were clunky - you can pray for today's needs without needing to include the latest buzzwords.

[Serial_Apologist]

I thought the choir sounded a bit tired in places (as well they might be). And the spoken prayers were clunky - you can pray for today's needs without needing to include the latest buzzwords.

I am not the person to comment on the prayers, but I was actually moved by the music for this service, and thought the singing to be pretty good. I always listen while having my Sunday morning bath, on the principle that maybe, just maybe, Christianity will attract me back. Actually it seems the longer I live the further it retreats from the remnants of spirituality that still comforted me in childhood. However, it was a relief not to be subjected to the happy-clappy watered down Gosepl stuff that is almost ubiquitous these days, it seems. Thanks to DracoM for the info on the pieces - I had assumed some of the music to have been an early work from the Sea Symphony era by Vaughan Williams, but presumably that must have been the Dyson piece.

[Finzi4ever]

I am not the person to comment on the prayers, but I was actually moved by the music for this service, and thought the singing to be pretty good. I always listen while having my Sunday morning bath, on the principle that maybe, just maybe, Christianity will attract me back. Actually it seems the longer I live the further it retreats from the remnants of spirituality that still comforted me in childhood. However, it was a relief not to be subjected to the happy-clappy watered down Gosepl stuff that is almost ubiquitous these days, it seems. Thanks to DracoM for the info on the pieces - I had assumed some of the music to have been an early work from the Sea Symphony era by Vaughan Williams, but presumably that must have been the Dyson piece.

I think you've confused the 2 separate broadcasts Southwell generously gave us yesterday, SA. Your 'morning bath', unless taken at 3pm, coincided with their broadcast of Eucharist which used that wonderful old stalwart of (Francis) Jackson in G as the mass setting, plus brass and then VW's 'Rise Heart'. The top line in the morning didn't seem the same as that in the afternoon...certainly girls/women in the morning... tentatively suggest the mass was sung by cathedral chamber choir, not least in that (di)Rector Chori and Asst had swapped roles as is traditional for this format.

[jonfan]

I am not the person to comment on the prayers, but I was actually moved by the music for this service, and thought the singing to be pretty good. I always listen while having my Sunday morning bath, on the principle that maybe, just maybe, Christianity will attract me back. Actually it seems the longer I live the further it retreats from the remnants of spirituality that still comforted me in childhood. However, it was a relief not to be subjected to the happy-clappy watered down Gosepl stuff that is almost ubiquitous these days, it seems. Thanks to DracoM for the info on the pieces - I had assumed some of the music to have been an early work from the Sea Symphony era by Vaughan Williams, but presumably that must have been the Dyson piece.

Not sure what Damascene conversion you’re expecting from your bath, but nevertheless that could be a first. I must challenge you though on ‘happy clappy watered down Gospel stuff’. This type of Christian worship has shown significant growth in the UK in recent times because it does put the Gospel first and requires commitment through Works ( as St James put it) rather than just a pleasant, personal feel good mood.

[Philip]

I think you've confused the 2 separate broadcasts Southwell generously gave us yesterday, SA. Your 'morning bath', unless taken at 3pm, coincided with their broadcast of Eucharist which used that wonderful old stalwart of (Francis) Jackson in G as the mass setting, plus brass and then VW's 'Rise Heart'. The top line in the morning didn't seem the same as that in the afternoon...certainly girls/women in the morning... tentatively suggest the mass was sung by cathedral chamber choir, not least in that (di)Rector Chori and Asst had swapped roles as is traditional for this format.

I understand from a Facebook post that the Eucharist was girls and men and the Evensong boys, girls and men. Simon Hogan does direct the girls as well as the Minster Chorale (the chamber choir). The girls have assumed a more prominent role in recent years (eg they sung Good Friday morning this year, previously the preserve of the boys, and have been involved in more major services), but from my observance as a reasonably frequent visitor the boys and girls are combined only for festivals (Christmas, Easter, Patronal etc). In a standard week the boys still do the bulk of services as far as I can tell.

As as local I might be biased, but it was about time we had a Southwell broadcast, this being the first since Paul Provost arrived two years ago, having taken over from Paul Hale who had retired the previous summer. Paul Provost has done an excellent job IMO, upholding the tradition while stamping his own mark on things in various ways. I'm a little surprised Simon Hogan hasn't moved on, having been at Southwell for nearly seven years now, but I'm not complaining, his organ playing really is superb.

In this context, I agree that the Eucharist probably came across better than the Evensong.

[mw963]

Not sure what Damascene conversion you’re expecting from your bath, but nevertheless that could be a first. I must challenge you though on ‘happy clappy watered down Gospel stuff’. This type of Christian worship has shown significant growth in the UK in recent times because it does put the Gospel first and requires commitment through Works ( as St James put it) rather than just a pleasant, personal feel good mood.

Whatever your own view from the religious high ground jonfan it doesn't make the music "of this type of Christian worship" any better!

[jonfan]

Whatever your own view from the religious high ground jonfan it doesn't make the music "of this type of Christian worship" any better!

It’s the idea that Gospel music is somehow a watered down version of Christianity that I object to. There are many versions all seeking truth in their own way and there’s room for all. Praise be.

[DracoM]

CE sung with undimmed gusto, even close to shout at times.