I seem to recall Kingsley Amis taking a potshot at them in Lucky Jim.
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He definitely took a potshot at the Welch family for singing Madrigals. In fact I blame Amis for causing the decline in madrigal singing by making it out to be the preserve of the twee and pretentious middle classes.
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I think you may be rather overestimating Amis's influence here. It seems to me that mardigal-singing just fell out of fashion, rather like the playing of four-handed arrangements of Classical symphonies and string quartets.Originally posted by ardcarp View PostLast edited by Miles Coverdale; 19-12-18, 21:38.My boxes are positively disintegrating under the sheer weight of ticks. Ed ReardonComment
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Yes, probably. But I still think the sheer wealth and musical ingenuity of the so-called 'English' Madrigal is. for whatever reason, under-valued.
Back to carols. Anyone remember Howard Goodall's BBC TV programme?
It's a bit naff in parts, but it does do great justice to Truro. There are some lovely bits by the Cathedral Choir, even if 'And the Glory of the Lord' from Messiah is totally irrelevant to the subject in hand.Comment
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See my #7. I thought the Messiah bit was 'For unto us' which was one of the original items - so not totally irrelevant?Originally posted by ardcarp View PostYes, probably. But I still think the sheer wealth and musical ingenuity of the so-called 'English' Madrigal is. for whatever reason, under-valued.
Back to carols. Anyone remember Howard Goodall's BBC TV programme?
It's a bit naff in parts, but it does do great justice to Truro. There are some lovely bits by the Cathedral Choir, even if 'And the Glory of the Lord' from Messiah is totally irrelevant to the subject in hand.Comment
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Did you mean 'For unto us' was an item in Truro's proto-type Carol Service?See my #7. I thought the Messiah bit was 'For unto us' which was one of the original items - so not totally irrelevant?
Actually in the Goodall programme it was 'And the Glory', but I don't see that either piece has anything to do with carols. But it was great hearing them sing it
and didn't those choristers read bits of lessons well?
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I thought the programme said that but also checked with the Grauniad article linked in #5, which said that 3 Messiah items were included - which of course could be incorrect. Whatever, the singing was glorious. I was also impressed by the singing of the youth choir doing a re-enactment of what apparently used to happen before the Bishop introduced his service.Originally posted by ardcarp View PostDid you mean 'For unto us' was an item in Truro's proto-type Carol Service?
Actually in the Goodall programme it was 'And the Glory', but I don't see that either piece has anything to do with carols. But it was great hearing them sing it and didn't those choristers read bits of lessons well?Comment
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The Grauniad article is perfectly correct. A pdf of the 1880 Truro (which I'm sure I picked up from somewhere here) confirms that there were three items from Messiah: (1) "For unto us", (2) "And their were shepherds"+"Glory to God" (3) Hallelujah", all described as "Anthem". There was a Magnificat too, although we are not told whose. The title of the service should not be read as excluding music other than carols.Originally posted by oddoneout View PostComment
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I stand corrected...except the BBC Programme was about CAROLS!Comment
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More specifically Christmas carols, and so it was not unreasonable to mention the origin of the carol service everyone knows of. I would have liked a bit more about carols outside the christmas season, but I suppose that wouldn't have been of general interest.Originally posted by ardcarp View PostComment
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Just watched 100 Years of Carols from Kings on BBC2 Not a single mention of Truro. [Unless I missed it.]
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I hope Mr C is recovering. Poor man, he looked in a bad way.Comment
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The mention of Truro in earlier posts comes about from a different TV programme - Howard Goodall on carols, repeated on BBC4 recently.Originally posted by ardcarp View PostComment
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I wondered if Bell's Palsy had struck him but I gather he had a damaging encounter with a bicycle.Originally posted by mercia View PostComment
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