Advent Carol Service St John's College Cambridge 2.xii.18 [R]

**DracoM** · 01-12-18, 10:50

Woops! MANY apologies for late posting.

**Tevot** · 01-12-18, 10:55

Many Thanks for posting Draco. I'll do my best to tune in !

**Nick Armstrong** · 01-12-18, 10:56

The actual service booklet can be downloaded here

Looking forward to this, as ever.

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Of course, as mentioned on the 'Stir-Up Sunday' thread, the description (e.g. in Radio Times) of this broadcast as 'live' is somewhat misleading. The service took place before the end of the Cambridge term, last Sunday - it is a recording of that 'live' event that will be heard tomorrow, as evidenced in the St John's Chapel listing:

**Alison** · 01-12-18, 10:58

Extra frisson missing, it’s not live then

**Nick Armstrong** · 01-12-18, 11:03

Originally posted by Alison View Post

Extra frisson missing, it’s not live then

Sorry to stifle your cheers and limit your frissons, Alison

**ardcarp** · 01-12-18, 12:31

Catch-up won't feel so bad then! (I'm always otherwise engaged on Advent Sunday.) Interesting comment by Jeremy Summerly on this morning's Recored Review about David Bednall's Noe, Noe. He said DB 'knows how to write fast music', by which he means music with rhythm that keeps going! Unlike [my words] all the slow chordal stuff aped by many a young composer. The Bednall seems to re-visit the post-Walton era of Leighton and Mathias...and good for him. Sorry, a few personal chestnuts there.

As a matter of interest, when did the John's Advent service stop being 'live'? I'm sure it used to be. Have Oxbridge terms got shorter? And even if they have, couldn't choral scholars stay on as part of the deal?

**DracoM** · 01-12-18, 12:56

Good question.
I also seem to recall they were live - or is it just this year that the actual Advent Sunday Service has been recorded? Or maybe that i was not so choosy about 'live' and 'recorded'? Or just didn't notice?

I know KCC do a plethora of videod services etc for all manner of different audiences / radio / TV contracts, but............when will KCC [dare to] stop doing the Nine Lessons etc live for BBC radio?

.....erm, sorry 'BBC 'Sounds' .........[yuk]

**Vox Humana** · 01-12-18, 16:01

Originally posted by ardcarp View Post

Catch-up won't feel so bad then! (I'm always otherwise engaged on Advent Sunday.) Interesting comment by Jeremy Summerly on this morning's Recored Review about David Bednall's Noe, Noe. He said DB 'knows how to write fast music', by which he means music with rhythm that keeps going! Unlike [my words] all the slow chordal stuff aped by many a young composer.

Quite. David Bednall's music is always well worth anyone's time.

**Nick Armstrong** · 01-12-18, 16:46

Originally posted by DracoM View Post

Good question.
I also seem to recall they were live - or is it just this year that the actual Advent Sunday Service has been recorded? Or maybe that i was not so choosy about 'live' and 'recorded'? Or just didn't notice?

Don't know the answer, but it may be that when the dates fall so that Advent Sunday itself falls within full term time, it's done live; but where (as this year) there's a gap, it has to be recorded. Perhaps it's always been billed as 'live' and we just didn't notice when it wasn't...

Originally posted by ardcarp View Post

Have Oxbridge terms got shorter? And even if they have, couldn't choral scholars stay on as part of the deal?

See my answer on this point here

**mopsus** · 01-12-18, 17:43

Originally posted by Caliban View Post

Don't know the answer, but it may be that when the dates fall so that Advent Sunday itself falls within full term time, it's done live; but where (as this year) there's a gap, it has to be recorded. Perhaps it's always been billed as 'live' and we just didn't notice when it wasn't...

We had this discussion last year, when it was also recorded: http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...ember-3rd-2017

However I think in 2016 the service was broadcast live because Advent Sunday fell in November. I haven't attempted to find out for earlier years. I know the broadcast has gone out on Advent Sunday for many years. I miss the St John's Passiontide broadcast, though you can catch it on the College's website.

**ardcarp** · 01-12-18, 18:37

Whilst I fully understand that the Advent Service is for members of the College, it is nevertheless broadcast to the nation and beyond. Might not the College consider it a gift (or even 'outreach') to arrange a live broadcast even if it falls outside full term?

**BasilHarwood** · 01-12-18, 18:39

Am told by a few people who were at the service in-person that this will be worth hearing!

... Especially the Telemann aria which was sung by a small number of trebles.

**ardcarp** · 01-12-18, 20:05

...and if anyone feels the need for something a bit penitential at the start of Advent, try this recent St John's Choral Evensong. Scroll down to Howells' Take Him Earth for Cherishing.

Page not found – SJC Choir

https://www.sjcchoir.co.uk/listen/webcasts/21-october-2018-choral-evensong?autoplay=true

**Keraulophone** · 01-12-18, 23:02

Originally posted by ardcarp View Post

Interesting comment by Jeremy Summerly on this morning's Record Review about David Bednall's Noe, Noe. He said DB 'knows how to write fast music', by which he means music with rhythm that keeps going! Unlike [my words] all the slow chordal stuff aped by many a young composer. The Bednall seems to re-visit the post-Walton era of Leighton and Mathias...and good for him. Sorry, a few personal chestnuts there.

I concur with your chestnuts, be they sweet, horse or puréed. I too have had quite enough of all that slow chordal dross, but we love doing Noe, Noe. Bednall’s organ parts are spectacular.

Advent Carol Service St John's College Cambridge 2.xii.18 [R]

Advent Carol Service St John's College Cambridge 2.xii.18 [R]

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