CE Christ Church Cathedral, Oxford Wed, 20th June 2018 [L]

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  • Finzi4ever
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
    I think there must be something in the Isis water that has an effect on Psalmody. As for The Twelve, I just love the piece and thought the treb duettists did a great job. Singing the 2nd part in tune ain't easy...and he did.
    I blame the Cherwell, myself (ORE STABIT FORTIS ARARE PLACETO RESTAT), Higgi psalmody at NCO was also quirky - not sure now though, but Magdalen is more conventional. Yes, weren't those trebles good?!

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    • vinteuil
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      • Nov 2010
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      #17
      Originally posted by Finzi4ever View Post
      I blame the Cherwell, myself (ORE STABIT FORTIS ARARE PLACETO RESTAT), Higgi psalmody at NCO was also quirky - not sure now though, but Magdalen is more conventional. Yes, weren't those trebles good?!
      ... surely that shd be "ore stabit fortis arare placet ore stat"?


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      • mopsus
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        • Nov 2010
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        #18
        Originally posted by DracoM View Post
        Well, I'm a huge fan of what Stephen Darlington has done on record eg the Eton Choirbook sequence, BUT that was all done in Merton College Chapel.
        I think the advantages of Merton for recording are not just the acoustic (and, possibly, now the organ - until 2014 Merton had an undistinguished instrument by Walker), but also the fact that it is away from main roads. The nearest road is a cobbled street that few vehicles venture along.

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        • underthecountertenor
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          • Apr 2011
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          #19
          Originally posted by mopsus View Post
          I think the advantages of Merton for recording are not just the acoustic (and, possibly, now the organ - until 2014 Merton had an undistinguished instrument by Walker), but also the fact that it is away from main roads. The nearest road is a cobbled street that few vehicles venture along.
          Unless I’m going senile, the Cathedral is even further away from main roads: there’s this massive great quad between it and St Aldates. So the advantages of Merton over the home venue are surely just acoustic and (now) organ?

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          • mopsus
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            • Nov 2010
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            #20
            I've just looked at a map, and Merton Chapel is further from the High than Christ Church Cathedral is from St Aldate's. It's also a question of how much noises such as ambulance sirens are audible in the building. I haven't spent enough time in Christ Church Cathedral to know whether they penetrate in there; certainly you can't hear them in Merton, which is separated from the High by a dense mass of other college buildings.

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            • underthecountertenor
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              • Apr 2011
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              #21
              Originally posted by mopsus View Post
              I've just looked at a map, and Merton Chapel is further from the High than Christ Church Cathedral is from St Aldate's. It's also a question of how much noises such as ambulance sirens are audible in the building. I haven't spent enough time in Christ Church Cathedral to know whether they penetrate in there; certainly you can't hear them in Merton, which is separated from the High by a dense mass of other college buildings.
              My dim recollection is that nothing penetrated, but I may be misremembering, and of course sirens are very different now....

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              • underthecountertenor
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                • Apr 2011
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                #22
                (And I suppose there is also the matter of that bloody great bell, especially at 9.05 pm)

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                • VodkaDilc

                  #23
                  Originally posted by mopsus View Post
                  I've just looked at a map, and Merton Chapel is further from the High than Christ Church Cathedral is from St Aldate's. It's also a question of how much noises such as ambulance sirens are audible in the building. I haven't spent enough time in Christ Church Cathedral to know whether they penetrate in there; certainly you can't hear them in Merton, which is separated from the High by a dense mass of other college buildings.
                  This makes me think that the siren which we heard very clearly in the central section of the Walton was not heard on the radio.

                  It was a wonderful experience for those of us lucky to live within driving distance of Christ Church. Stephen Darlington has got the choir to an amazing level; I hope his successor can maintain it. Interestingly a clutch (?) of organists arrived soon after I was seated, including Daniel Hyde; it's nice to know that they were there to support their colleague at the end of his distinguished time at the cathedral.

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                  • Miles Coverdale
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 639

                    #24
                    When I was in the choir there we recorded unaccompanied repertoire in the Abbey at Dorchester-on-Thames and the one disc I remember having accompanied music (of Walton) was done in Leominster Priory (possibly because it was near the base of Nimbus Records). The reasons for not using the cathedral include the comparative lack of acoustic and problems with background noise, but also that closing the cathedral for a day would have deprived the college of a fair amount of income, I imagine.
                    My boxes are positively disintegrating under the sheer weight of ticks. Ed Reardon

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                    • mopsus
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #25
                      Yes, Christ Church was one of the first Colleges to charge for admission, and was doing so already in the 1980s at least.

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                      • jonfan
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                        • Dec 2010
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                        #26
                        Endorse all the plaudits mentioned above. Almost convinced that’s the way to sing psalms by the end of their performance. Stunning throughout and The Twelve treble soloists - fantastic, a performance to treasure. The engineering was spot on, noticeably a rich detailed sound in the voluntary. Beautiful service, thank you.
                        Surely not a ‘clutch’ of organists but something like a ‘rank’ or a ‘coupler’ ?

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                        • Pulcinella
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                          • Feb 2014
                          • 11258

                          #27
                          Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                          Surely not a ‘clutch’ of organists but something like a ‘rank’ or a ‘coupler’ ?
                          A Swell?

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                          • terratogen
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                            • Nov 2011
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                            A Swell?
                            Isn't it a 'cipher'?

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                            • VodkaDilc

                              #29
                              Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                              Surely not a ‘clutch’ of organists but something like a ‘rank’ or a ‘coupler’ ?
                              A cornopean?

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                              • Finzi4ever
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                                ... surely that shd be "ore stabit fortis arare placet ore stat"?
                                .
                                both versions exist in different locations

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