CE Liverpool Metropolitan Cathedral 21.iii.18

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  • jean
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
    ...the 'Wigwam'...
    Please don't call it that! We never do.

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    • Dafydd y G.W.
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      • Oct 2016
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      #17
      Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
      I first had to play Le F-W's awful Sortie in E flat for a wedding about 50 years ago. And blow me, people kept asking for it. Well, if you want to get married to a Big Top Circus piece.....
      There are two composers who invariably get appreciative comments when I play them. Lefébure-Wély is one. By curious contrast Bach is the other.

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      • MrGongGong
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        #18
        Originally posted by jean View Post
        Please don't call it that! We never do.
        As a teenager in Birkenhead in the 1970's it was always known as "(insert common slang for Irish man)'s Wigwam"

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        • jean
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          #19
          I know. But that was forty years ago, and anyway Paddy's Wigwam was always a jokey borderline-racist insult, not the sort of insider term like Wabbey or the Drome that people on the board are so fond of - there's an important difference.

          You are not in Birkenhead any more. And trust me, nobody ever says it now.

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          • CallMePaul
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            • Jan 2014
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            #20
            Originally posted by jean View Post
            I know. But that was forty years ago, and anyway Paddy's Wigwam was always a jokey borderline-racist insult, not the sort of insider term like Wabbey or the Drome that people on the board are so fond of - there's an important difference.

            You are not in Birkenhead any more. And trust me, nobody ever says it now.
            Is it still ever referred to as the "Mersey Funnel"?

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            • jean
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              #21
              No.

              Anyone who wants to make a serious reference to it rather than indulge in a tired and dated joke calls it the Met.

              As here:

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              • MrGongGong
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by jean View Post
                I know. But that was forty years ago, and anyway Paddy's Wigwam was always a jokey borderline-racist insult, not the sort of insider term like Wabbey or the Drome that people on the board are so fond of - there's an important difference.

                You are not in Birkenhead any more. And trust me, nobody ever says it now.
                Ok

                I probably picked that up from one of my old teachers who wrote the mass setting for the inauguration

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                • jean
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                  One of the odd things about that service was that it came from a very specifically Catholic foundation, but frankly, it was as Anglican as it gets...
                  It shouldn't be that surprising, as what they like to call Choral Evening Prayer is essentially Vespers,and Anglican Evensong was an amalgamation of the monastic offices of Vespers and Compline.

                  I don't think they are singing the anitiphons to the psalms here, which they normally do now - and they would sound more Anglican if they used Anglican chant, as they often did in Philip's day.

                  What edged the service a bit further towards Evensong was the presence of a Nunc Dimittis, which of course comes from Compline not Vespers.

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                  • jean
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                    ...completed in 1967, so the choir hadn't been going that long at the time of this CE recording.
                    In fact, the choir was in existence from 1960 under its first Master of the Music, Christoper Symons. At that time, services were held in the Lutyens crypt.

                    Philip Duffy was a member of the choir before he took over as Master of the Music himself in 1966.

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