SoP snubs Bangor Cathedral Choir.

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  • Vox Humana
    Full Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1261

    SoP snubs Bangor Cathedral Choir.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-43219450# No more than I would expect from this cheap, tacky programme. I have no idea what the choir is like nowadays, but even if the BBC didn't want to feature them alone, surely there were other options than simply relegating them to the congregation?
  • oddoneout
    Full Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 9423

    #2
    The cathedral choir hasn't been on 'Britain's got Talent'....
    And the Cor Glanaethwy choir probably ticks all sorts of useful boxes for the Beeb.

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    • mopsus
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 850

      #3
      Songs of Praise quite often 'imports' choirs. There was some indignation among choirs in Bath (of which there are many) when an episode was filmed in a Bath church with a choir from Bristol.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30654

        #4
        Originally posted by Vox Humana View Post
        surely there were other options than simply relegating them to the congregation?
        I suppose all the choirs, including Bangor's, could have at least been treated the same way. Judging by the Dean's response, was it a question of the cathedral 'pocketing the money and the insult'?
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          #5
          I remember being involved with a SoP years ago from Liverpool Metropolitan Cathedral - by which I mean a choir I sang with being asked to infiltrate the congregation to make it appear that they were singing with greater enthusiasm than was the case - and I don't remember the Cathedral choirs being showcased then, but I may be wrong.

          There was another one from there recently, but I didn't see that.

          I should have thought a self-respecting choir would be glad to be out of it, but what seems to have happened here is that children from the Cathedral choir (I don't think there's a choir school) happen to be at the school whose choir has been chosen, and

          ...members of the cathedral choir have been teased by singers from Cor Glanaethwy at school over the decision...
          A situation that should perhaps have been foreseen.

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          • jonfan
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 1464

            #6
            The cathedral choir was very impressive last year on a Sunday Worship on R4. Surely a CE would be great to hear from them.

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20580

              #7
              It's the same with the orchestral players use in Songs of Praise. They're bussed in/flown in from everywhere. The programme is a fake.

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              • jean
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7100

                #8
                Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                The cathedral choir was very impressive last year on a Sunday Worship on R4. Surely a CE would be great to hear from them.
                Yes indeed, but this is Songs of Praise we're talking about here - a very different animal.

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                • teamsaint
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25254

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  It's the same with the orchestral players use in Songs of Praise. They're bussed in/flown in from everywhere. The programme is a fake.
                  Seems a real shame. Surely people dont watch SoP for finely honed or virtuoso performances? If so, why did they have Aled on all those years?

                  Seems like a case of Fake Pews .
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • Petrushka
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12390

                    #10
                    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                    Fake Pews .
                    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                    • jean
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7100

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jean View Post
                      I remember being involved with a SoP years ago from Liverpool Metropolitan Cathedral...I don't remember the Cathedral choirs being showcased then, but I may be wrong.

                      There was another one from there recently, but I didn't see that.
                      I asked some of the choir today and they said no, the choir wasn't featured.

                      SoP prefers something a bit more community-based. A shame the Bangor children didn't understand that!

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                      • Roger Judd
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 237

                        #12
                        If the Bangor Cathedral Choir isn't community-based, then I wonder what is. The children, according to the cathedral web-site, all come from local primary schools, and one imagines that the lay clerks all live and work in the area, as well as the choral scholars from Bangor University - what could be more community-based than that, I wonder?
                        RJ

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                        • jean
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7100

                          #13
                          You know what I mean! What the BBC are after for this slot is the sort of 'community' choir that doesn't do sight-reading or auditions.

                          (Liverpool doesn't have a choir school, either.)

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                          • MrGongGong
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            It's the same with the orchestral players use in Songs of Praise. They're bussed in/flown in from everywhere. The programme is a fake.
                            NSS
                            You mean to say that all the players in the LSO aren't from London?

                            No way

                            You'll be telling me that footballers who play for Manchester United aren't from Manchester next !

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                            • Vox Humana
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1261

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jean View Post
                              You know what I mean! What the BBC are after for this slot is the sort of 'community' choir that doesn't do sight-reading or auditions.

                              (Liverpool doesn't have a choir school, either.)
                              Roger has a point though. The cathedral choir is as much a part of the community as everyone else and it is their church which is hosting the event, so why sideline it? It rather reinforces the unfortunate impression that the programme is really interested only in reaching out to the lowest common denominator and, even more unfortunately, that God isn't interested in the best that his creation can offer him.

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