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  • DracoM
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    • Mar 2007
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    CE Salisbury Cathedral Wed, November 1st 2017

    CE Salisbury Cathedral
    The Feast of All Saints.


    Order of Service:


    Introit: Give us the wings of faith (Bullock)
    Responses: Clucas
    Psalms 148, 149, 150 (Willcocks, Buck, Goodenough)
    Office Hymn: For all the Saints (Sine Nomine)
    First Lesson: Isaiah 65: 17-25
    Canticles: Walmisley in D minor
    Second Lesson: Hebrews 11:32 – 12: 2
    Anthem: O how glorious is the kingdom (Harwood)
    Te Deum: Collegium Regale (Howells)


    Organ Voluntary: Pièce Héroïque (Franck)


    John Challenger (Organist and Assistant Director of Music)
    David Halls (Director of Music)



  • DracoM
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    • Mar 2007
    • 13009

    #2
    Reminder: today @ 3.30 p.m.

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    • ardcarp
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      • Nov 2010
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      #3
      Wow. Good old Walmisley in D minor. It doesn't get much of an airing these days. Also good to see a Te Deum getting used at the end of CE.

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      • DracoM
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        • Mar 2007
        • 13009

        #4
        And a real LIVE service too..........! Ahem.

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        • ardcarp
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          er, Amen?

          A good trad CE. Very enjoyable, even though only heard with half an ear. Will listen again with the other one.

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          • DracoM
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            • Mar 2007
            • 13009

            #6
            Lusty singing all round in fairly standard repertoire in a wonderful acoustic well captured, and with some top organ accompaniments and solos.
            Old story: standard repertoire sung as well as this is worth ten services where the 'difficult' is assayed maybe to catch the eye / ear?
            Today, the standard material was riches enough.

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            • oddoneout
              Full Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 9423

              #7
              A robust offering. I do like to hear choirs singing out with conviction and confidence. And yes, good to hear the Walmisley.
              Also, credit to someone for just doing the necessary 'That was....' and then a quiet unannounced bit of singing to fill the gap until In Tune, instead of intrusive unnecessary wittering or trailer.

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              • jonfan
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 1464

                #8
                A very beautiful service and agree with all the above. Pianissimo singing in the canticles worthy of mention as well as the strong stuff. There must have been nerves about a possible overrun but in the spare time at the end we could have had the extra psalm that was ommitted and/or few more verses of Sine Nomine? Many thanks Salisbury.

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                • mopsus
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 850

                  #9
                  It's the second week in a row we've had a truncated hymn. Last week was post-service editing which left us with just 3 verses of 'Praise to the Holiest'. And this week 'For All the Saints' sounded very odd without its final verse, which alludes to the Doxology.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26603

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                    Wow. Good old Walmisley in D minor. It doesn't get much of an airing these days. Also good to see a Te Deum getting used at the end of CE.
                    Agree with all of that, I'd forgotten old Walmisley - I like it. The Harwood anthem was instantly forgettable, and some slightly elderly tenors in the choir seemed to be attempting to give it more interest than it actually possesses - but no such complaints about the bonus Howells, a cracking performance... and generally, an excellent listen, this service. Ideal treble lines throughout, it seemed to me.

                    Anyone know of the liturgical whys and wherefores of bolting on a Te Deum at the end? High days and holidays?
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • teamsaint
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      Agree with all of that, I'd forgotten old Walmisley - I like it. The Harwood anthem was instantly forgettable, and some slightly elderly tenors in the choir seemed to be attempting to give it more interest than it actually possesses - but no such complaints about the bonus Howells, a cracking performance... and generally, an excellent listen, this service. Ideal treble lines throughout, it seemed to me.

                      Anyone know of the liturgical whys and wherefores of bolting on a Te Deum at the end? High days and holidays?
                      Walmisley was definitely held back for some of the bigger occasions back in the day at Salisbury. No extra Te Deums either, I expect the Dean picked up a job lot somewhere, or is on commission from the Te Deum people.
                      Last edited by teamsaint; 04-11-17, 22:23. Reason: Apostrophe catastrophe
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                      • jean
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        Anyone know of the liturgical whys and wherefores of bolting on a Te Deum at the end? High days and holidays?
                        I guess it's in celebration of the glorious company of the Apostles...the goodly fellowship of the Prophets...the noble army of Martyrs... all being Saints, to whom the day is dedicated.

                        And because nobody sings Matins any more, you have to get your fix of Te Deums somewhere else.

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                        • ardcarp
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11102

                          #13
                          and some slightly elderly tenors in the choir
                          Ooops! Though I don't know the make-up of the choir which sang in the broadcast, Salisbury traditionally had just six lay vicars (three per side) which put quite a big responsibility on each! They have to sing blendingly at times, and at others to sing out soloistically. (As a sometimes paid member of the superannuated tenors club, I sing regularly with one of the retired Salisbury ditto lay vicars who did a sterling 25 years ...a great musician, and still singing well.) I agree though, it's possible to get a rounder sound when there are more back-desks, preferably with a few choral scholars in the mix.

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                          • Nick Armstrong
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26603

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                            As a sometimes paid member of the superannuated tenors club


                            Perhaps I should have said "slightly elderly-sounding tenors..."... Or does that make it worse...?

                            Ach, you know I mean well!
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26603

                              #15
                              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                              Walmisley was definitely held back for some of the bigger occasions back in the day at Salisbury. No extra Te Deums either, I expect the Dean picked up a job lot somewhere, or is on commission from the Te Deum people.
                              Can't believe they brought that Basil Harwood off the bench for the final 20 minutes, absolute waste of space... Herbie "Canticles" Howells was more than capable of taking the strain on his own.
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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