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  • DracoM
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    • Mar 2007
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    CE Chapel of The Queen's College, Oxford Wed, 15th Feb 2017

    CE Chapel of The Queen's College, Oxford


    Order of Service:


    Introit: Behold, O God our defender (John Scott)
    Response: Humphrey Clucas
    Psalm 78 (Howells, Bairstow, Barnby, Walford Davies, Jackson)
    First Lesson: Isaiah 58: 6-14
    Canticles: Noble in B minor
    Second Lesson: Matthew 25: 31-46
    Anthem: Os justi (Bruckner)
    Hymn: The duteous day now closeth (Innsbruck)


    Organ Voluntary: Sonata No 5 - Finale (Francis Jackson)


    Assistant Organist: David Bednall
    Director of Music: Owen Rees
  • mopsus
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    Yay! The full Monty!

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    • underthecountertenor
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      • Apr 2011
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      #3
      Originally posted by mopsus View Post
      Yay! The full Monty!
      Dvořák would be equally thrilled, I'm sure.

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      • Finzi4ever
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        Originally posted by mopsus View Post
        Yay! The full Monty!
        Great as the little Frobenius is, it won't cope terribly well with smiting 'their cattle also with hail-stones: and their flocks with hot thunderbolts'!

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        • mopsus
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          For my own part, I'm not that keen on Dvořák's church compositions, although I like his music generally. I suspect in his day Ps. 78 would have been sung to fewer different chants than now, when it typically gets about five when it is done in full.

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          • Vile Consort
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            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            Why are you discussing Dvorak?

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            • underthecountertenor
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              • Apr 2011
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              #7
              Originally posted by Vile Consort View Post
              Why are you discussing Dvorak?
              Dvorak had something to say about English psalmody, with which I have some sympathy when people get over-excited at the thought of a BCP 15th evening.

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              • mw963
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                • Feb 2012
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                #8
                Well I daresay my googling skills are less efficient than most so I am unable to ascertain what Dvorak said. And clearly the "oh-so-clever" people on here are enjoying their little secret.

                However, as I love Anglican chant I'm afraid I couldn't give a flying fig what Dvorak said, and as I can't find it on the internet I imagine no one else can either.

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                • Nick Armstrong
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Classic thread so far!

                  I'd take Howells, Bairstow, Barnby, Walford Davies & Jackson any day over Dvorak choral music (much though I love his orchestral writing).
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    Classic thread so far!

                    I'd take Howells, Bairstow, Barnby, Walford Davies & Jackson any day over Dvorak choral music (much though I love his orchestral writing).
                    Do you know the Dvorak Te Deum, Caliban?
                    I conducted it once, and thought it a rather good four-movement choral symphony!

                    Hard for anything to compete with Howells' Coll Reg, though, which we had at evensong at the Minster here yesterday, along with the full BCP psalms for the day.

                    (Apologies for continuing the off-topic nature of this classic thread! )

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                    • Vox Humana
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                      • Dec 2012
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by mw963 View Post
                      Well I daresay my googling skills are less efficient than most so I am unable to ascertain what Dvorak said.
                      The story goes that Dvorak was taken to Evensong at St Paul's and, hearing Anglican chant for the first time, asked "Why do they keep singing such a bad tune over and over again?"

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                      • Alain Maréchal
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                        • Dec 2010
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mw963 View Post
                        Well I daresay my googling skills are less efficient than most so I am unable to ascertain what Dvorak said. And clearly the "oh-so-clever" people on here are enjoying their little secret.

                        However, as I love Anglican chant I'm afraid I couldn't give a flying fig what Dvorak said, and as I can't find it on the internet I imagine no one else can either.
                        In defence of the "people on here", every group has its "in-jokes". I am an outsider, but I googled "Dvorak Anglican Chant" and the answer appeared promptly. Try it.

                        ps I like "St.Ludmila": "Gospodiy Pomiluniy" (or whatever transliteration you prefer) is one of his jolliest choruses.

                        pps I think your third sentence might contain a non-sequitur. Love of one does not preclude caring about what Dvorak said, with or without airborne fruit.
                        Last edited by Alain Maréchal; 12-02-17, 11:27. Reason: correction of saintly confusion

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                        • ardcarp
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          In our delightful digression, no-one has yet mentioned Dvorak's Stabat Mater for chorus, orchestra and. SATB soloists. It has a great tenor solo with (at one point) an excruciating (for me anyway) top D flat. It used to be a staple of choral societies, but seems to be done less these days.

                          On the subject of finding things on Google, I can't track down Poulenc's comment on hearing one of his motets sung by an Anglican choir. "....needs a bit more Maurice Chevalier" or something like that.

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                          • Triforium
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                            Classic thread so far!

                            I'd take Howells, Bairstow, Barnby, Walford Davies & Jackson any day over Dvorak choral music (much though I love his orchestral writing).
                            Ah, but have you ever experienced any of Barnby's settings of the canticles? Shocking.

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                            • Flay
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                              • Mar 2007
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                              On the subject of finding things on Google, I can't track down Poulenc's comment on hearing one of his motets sung by an Anglican choir. "....needs a bit more Maurice Chevalier" or something like that.
                              Try page 2 of:

                              Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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