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  • underthecountertenor
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    • Apr 2011
    • 1584

    #61
    Originally posted by Don Basilio View Post
    O yes. The BCP text inevitably, But I am as confused where some cathedrals get their psalm course from. It's not a concert, it is a liturgical act of worship which should be in line with the rest, or at least other parts, of the church.

    I find CW psalms far preferable reciting the office at home: morning psalms are used in the morning, evening psalms in the evening and Psalm 119 spread over the entire period.
    I imagine that you sympathise with Dvorak who (according to a story recounted by the late John Scott) complained on his first visit to St Paul's: 'why do they keep singing the same bad tune over and over again?'

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    • vinteuil
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      • Nov 2010
      • 12844

      #62
      Originally posted by Don Basilio View Post
      .

      I find CW psalms far preferable reciting the office at home: morning psalms are used in the morning, evening psalms in the evening and Psalm 119 spread over the entire period.
      ... ah, 'murmurs his law day and night'.

      I rather like the New Jerusalem as an astringent alternative to BCP.

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      • Don Basilio
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        • Nov 2010
        • 320

        #63
        I've just looked up the current music schedule at St Paul's. The psalms seem to correspond neither to the BCP nor CW.

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        • underthecountertenor
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          • Apr 2011
          • 1584

          #64
          Originally posted by Don Basilio View Post
          I've just looked up the current music schedule at St Paul's. The psalms seem to correspond neither to the BCP nor CW.
          I THINK an answer to that may be found at #23.

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          • Don Basilio
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            • Nov 2010
            • 320

            #65
            Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
            I THINK an answer to that may be found at #23.
            Thank you Your'e right.

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            • Don Basilio
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              • Nov 2010
              • 320

              #66
              Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
              I risk being told to google off, but could anybody tell me why the BCP psalms calendar was in need of revision? It was as good a way of getting through them as any other (unless there is a connotation I, not an Anglican, am unaware of).
              Originally posted by Don Basilio View Post

              I find CW psalms far preferable reciting the office at home: morning psalms are used in the morning, evening psalms in the evening and Psalm 119 spread over the entire period.
              The unimaginative BCP cycle replaced a weekly cycle in the Rule of St Benedict and elsewhere. The revision is making the office more an act of prayer than a marathon to get through all the texts irrespective of content.

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              • underthecountertenor
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                • Apr 2011
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                #67
                Originally posted by Don Basilio View Post
                The unimaginative BCP cycle replaced a weekly cycle in the Rule of St Benedict and elsewhere. The revision is making the office more an act of prayer than a marathon to get through all the texts irrespective of content.

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                • Alain Maréchal
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1286

                  #68
                  Thank you, I am grateful for an answer at last.

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                  • Don Basilio
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 320

                    #69
                    You're welcome. And penitential psalms (eg 51) crop up on Fridays.

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                    • Alain Maréchal
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 1286

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Don Basilio View Post
                      You're welcome. And penitential psalms (eg 51) crop up on Fridays.
                      Useful to know, although my church is Calvinist, so penitence is constant. (it occurs to me that that remark may seem flippant. I should repent it. Oh, I've done it again).

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                      • vinteuil
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12844

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
                        Useful to know, although my church is Calvinist, so penitence is constant...
                        ... I wouldn't bother - why worry? : either you're saved or you're not - nothing you can do about it now









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                        • Alain Maréchal
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1286

                          #72
                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          ... I wouldn't bother - why worry? : either you're saved or you're not - nothing you can do about it now
                          Absolutely so, but we are exhorted to behave as though we might be saved, and it would be a pity not to be prepared. We have recently merged with a Lutheran church, so the question of whether or not we have been wrong for the last few hundred years gives us a lot to worry about and takes our minds off it. (oh dear, showing a lack of charity, its endless........)

                          I know little (in fact nothing) about Scottish Calvinism, so cannot comment on Hogg.
                          Last edited by Alain Maréchal; 12-10-16, 12:32. Reason: rewritten several times to aid clarity, as usual.

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                          • vinteuil
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12844

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post
                            We have recently merged with a Lutheran church, so the question of whether or not we have been wrong for the last few hundred years gives us a lot to worry about and takes our minds off it. (oh dear, showing a lack of charity, its endless........)
                            ... I like your dry wit.

                            [ by the way, probably "it's endless... " ]


                            Originally posted by Alain Maréchal View Post

                            I know little (in fact nothing) about Scottish Calvinism, so cannot comment on Hogg.
                            ... o, it's a wonderful book - I strongly recommend it. And what is also interesting is that it was forgotten here in Britain for ages, until André Gide drew it to our attention. It's a great book.

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                            • Alain Maréchal
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1286

                              #74
                              There are a lot of things to which Gide drew attention, and many French protestants wish he had not.

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