CE Chapel of Magdalen College, Oxford Wed, March 2nd 2016

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  • DracoM
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    • Mar 2007
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    CE Chapel of Magdalen College, Oxford Wed, March 2nd 2016

    CE Chapel of Magdalen College, Oxford


    Order of Service:


    In nomine (Ward)
    Introit: Call to remembrance (Farrant)
    Responses: Morley
    Psalms 12, 13, 14 (Barnby, Rose, Smart)
    First Lesson: Genesis 9: 8-17
    Canticles: Fifth Service (Tomkins)
    Second Lesson: 1 Peter 3: 18-22
    Anthem: Down, caitiff wretch (Ward)
    Hymn: Teach me, my God and King (Sandys)


    Organ Voluntary for Double Organ (Purcell)



    Phantasm (directed by Laurence Dreyfus)
    Anna Lapwood (organ scholar)

    Daniel Hyde (Informator Choristarum)
  • DracoM
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    • Mar 2007
    • 13009

    #2
    Mr Hyde's last live broadcast via R3 perhaps before taking up his post of DOM at St Thomas, Fifth Ave NYC?
    Last edited by DracoM; 02-03-16, 15:34.

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    • subcontrabass
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      • Nov 2010
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      #3
      More viol music?

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      • DracoM
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        • Mar 2007
        • 13009

        #4
        Looks like it. Does it work? I'm really not sure. Maybe it's just that for the most part this is a pretty rare liturgical mix today?

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        • subcontrabass
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by DracoM View Post
          Looks like it. Does it work? I'm really not sure. Maybe it's just that for the most part this is a pretty rare liturgical mix today?
          The two Ward pieces were written for viols.

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          • ardcarp
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            • Nov 2010
            • 11102

            #6
            Phantasm are wonderful. They tend to play with more guts (no pun intended) than some other consorts.

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            • light_calibre_baritone

              #7
              Viols sound kinda Lenten to me...

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                • Sep 2011
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                #8
                Originally posted by light_calibre_baritone View Post
                Viols sound kinda Lenten to me...
                Oh, I thought they owned them.
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • DracoM
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                  • Mar 2007
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                  #9
                  Reminder: today at 3.30 p.m.

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                  • DracoM
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                    • Mar 2007
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                    #10
                    Fascinating interweaving of sounds. Some excellent psalm singing - real drama, terrific diction / discipline, boys who sounded like real boys, some dynamic alto work as well.
                    And to my surprise - possibly to no-pone else's more clued up - the viols / choir mix worked in quite a dry but warm acoustic. Viols were as ardcarp hinted played with some force and vigour. Maybe a tad too loud for some of the bits of the Ward anthem - new to me - lighter voices got a bit lost now and then, but bass sounded terrific against them. Invigorating stuff.

                    Bodes well for Dan Hyde's tenure in NYC.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26603

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                      Fascinating interweaving of sounds ...Invigorating stuff.

                      Bodes well for Dan Hyde's tenure in NYC.
                      Oh dear.... I didn't like the sound the choir were making at all. I made it until half-way through the Ward anthem, had to give the fatigued ears a rest.
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Magnificat

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        Oh dear.... I didn't like the sound the choir were making at all. I made it until half-way through the Ward anthem, had to give the fatigued ears a rest.
                        Caliban/Draco

                        I rather liked the sound the boys made but the psalm singing seemed very staccato and un-musical to me. I found the viols very intrusive and, as you say Draco, drowning the voice parts quite often. The canticles would have been better unaccompanied in my opinion and the anthem droned on and on.

                        I think, however, Dan Hyde has proved one of the best of recent appointments ( last ten years ) to DoM posts and wish him well in New York. Having been in charge at two very small chapels he'll be able to be more expansive there. I hope he doesn't find the rattle of the subway trains too intrusive!!.

                        I recognised the mellifluous voice of the Precentor as Richard Lloyd Morgan from King's, Cambridge and see from the college site that he is now Dean of Divinity ( Chaplain ) at Magdalen. Incidentally there was a piece in the Daily Telegraph yesterday, with a picture of students in the chapel of New College Oxford, about Oxbridge college chaplains reporting rising attendances at evensong and its popularity as an escape from the pressures of modern life.

                        VCC.

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                        • ardcarp
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          Yes, I thought the recording balance was tilted too much towards the viols. Thundering good bass soloist! Was the pitch (of e.g. the Tomkins canticles) lower than usual..they were in F# minor, I think? I know viols have to be tuned rather frequently (being fretted instruments with no wriggle-room) but it did seem a shame to have a lot of tuning going on during CE. Fretwork managed not to at KCC.

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                          • Nick Armstrong
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Magnificat View Post
                            d the anthem droned on and on.
                            I hesitated to comment on the piece, but so it seemed to me (of course I don't know how long it went on after I switched off!)
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • DracoM
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                              • Mar 2007
                              • 13009

                              #15
                              Yes, tended to make it a tad like a concert, I agree. BUT if you're leading in for singers, AND in a piece like that where the bass singer is already pretty near the bottom of his register anyway, maybe you have to make assurance double sure? Just a thought.

                              Sorry, but Precentor's voice not my thing.

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