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Who criticised David Beckham for wearing his OBE, and where was this reported? How do you know about the proscription concerning the wearing of civilian decorations last Friday?
You do not seem to understand or want to understand that you should not benefit financially from an act of worship of Almighty God in which you are not directly involved on the day.
I love the way you make up these "rules" as you go along! If I accept a commission to write a liturgical piece is it OK if I receive payment on the day of the service, but but not if it's the day before, or the day after...?
The church also should not have any part whatsoever in the receipt or payment of royalties from commercial agencies of any sort when they relate to an act of worship.
I am quite happy for you to be paid a fee for composing a piece of music by the church for the church to use in a service as I am for WA to pay its lay clerks for their skills as it is all part of the latter's wish to do the very best it can provide a service worthy of God as long as you and they are involved in it directly on the day.
That's good to know! Thank you for your permitting me to do my job. I appreciate that you adhere to the highest ethical standards so it's reassuring to know that's it's ok with you for me to be paid for writing a piece for liturgical use when I've been asked to do so.
Who criticised David Beckham for wearing his OBE, and where was this reported? How do you know about the proscription concerning the wearing of civilian decorations last Friday?
Wolsey,
It was reported somewhere that guests were requested not to wear civilian decorations in the context that David Beckham wore his and also that it was unfortunate that he wore it on his wrong lapel. How else would I know this?
I thought it interesting that the Head Chorister was not wearing his medal as they always do, or at least did, when I used to worship there and am simply wondering if there is some connection with what I read about David Beckham. An interesting piece of protocol ( ridiculous though it would be ) perhaps that I certainly did not know about.
I couldn't care less whether Beckham wore his OBE. He is obviously proud enough of it to wear it. Good for him I say sod the protocol. It was the Queen's adherance to protocol after all that got her into so much trouble when Prince William's mother died.
I love the way you make up these "rules" as you go along! If I accept a commission to write a liturgical piece is it OK if I receive payment on the day of the service, but but not if it's the day before, or the day after...?
That's good to know! Thank you for your permitting me to do my job. I appreciate that you adhere to the highest ethical standards so it's reassuring to know that's it's ok with you for me to be paid for writing a piece for liturgical use when I've been asked to do so.
Gabriel,
And I hope you are requested to write many more and are paid handsomely for them. I am quite happy to leave the ethics of it all to your conscience. I have just stated what I think about it all.
Can I please insist! There is much to be said on WEDDING MUSIC in all manner of contects, but I am distressed at the rancour that has crept into this exhange Unless we can agree to civilly disagree, I shall very reluctantly have no option but to close this thread.
Can I please insist! There is much to be said on WEDDING MUSIC in all manner of contects, but I am distressed at the rancour that has crept into this exhange Unless we can agree to civilly disagree, I shall very reluctantly have no option but to close this thread.
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
Well, as I sort of predicted, back in message 86, (60 messages ago) there's nothing quite like debating fees to stir musicians into into a frenzy of disageement - unless, perhaps, it's R*tt*r ?
(Message 86) "And anyway, the discussion's moved on to the far more interesting topic of how much Wabbey singers get paid - now that's a real musician's debate, like the nearest best pub to drink in after the show and how long it takes to get from pit to pint. "
Apologies for my extremely 'untimely' absence for several days btw, and thanks to ards and Draco for holding the fort.
Please don't let the new smiley go to your heads - it's a bit on the provocative side, in my view - I prefer polite, reasoned verbal exchanges
However, a provocative post provokes people to join in the debates and I hope all the new arrivals will stay to enrich the discussions with their knowledge and expertise.
It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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