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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    • Apr 2014
    • 6925

    #61
    A lot more in today’s Private Eye . The liturgical bonfire story would tax the narrative powers of Trollope. It would be comic if it didn’t involve real people who care about these things .

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    • Finzi4ever
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      • Nov 2010
      • 601

      #62
      Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
      A lot more in today’s Private Eye . The liturgical bonfire story would tax the narrative powers of Trollope. It would be comic if it didn’t involve real people who care about these things .
      Lunchtime O'Boulez shouldn't have got the Dean's name wrong, though, as it somehow weakens a point. I found her video statement in very bad taste, or at least it left one! Am I wrong to think Andrew Lucas, with such an excellent career and reputation, has played right into the hands of the D&C?

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      • underthecountertenor
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        • Apr 2011
        • 1586

        #63
        Originally posted by Finzi4ever View Post

        Lunchtime O'Boulez shouldn't have got the Dean's name wrong, though, as it somehow weakens a point. I found her video statement in very bad taste, or at least it left one! Am I wrong to think Andrew Lucas, with such an excellent career and reputation, has played right into the hands of the D&C?
        Alternatively, he has decided that it would be better to do what he can to maintain the choral tradition at Winchester than to leave it to someone with a lesser career, reputation and, indeed, ability, to ruin it.

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        • Finzi4ever
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          • Nov 2010
          • 601

          #64
          Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post

          Alternatively, he has decided that it would be better to do what he can to maintain the choral tradition at Winchester than to leave it to someone with a lesser career, reputation and, indeed, ability, to ruin it.
          A very fair point, well made!

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          • underthecountertenor
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            • Apr 2011
            • 1586

            #65
            Originally posted by Finzi4ever View Post

            A very fair point, well made!
            Thanks!

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            • mopsus
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              • Nov 2010
              • 828

              #66
              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
              A lot more in today’s Private Eye . The liturgical bonfire story would tax the narrative powers of Trollope. It would be comic if it didn’t involve real people who care about these things .
              Presumably the 'bonfire' was the Easter fire. But why light it in the Cathedral when there is the whole of the Cathedral Close? Perhaps he feared rain, although other churches seem to manage lighting it on wet evenings.

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              • oddoneout
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                • Nov 2015
                • 9268

                #67
                Originally posted by mopsus View Post

                Presumably the 'bonfire' was the Easter fire. But why light it in the Cathedral when there is the whole of the Cathedral Close? Perhaps he feared rain, although other churches seem to manage lighting it on wet evenings.
                Perhaps it wasn't so much concern for whether the fire would light(planning and a certain amount of know-how solves that as I remember from a couple of such occasions) , but rather whether the participants(total or specific...) would get damp?

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                • kernelbogey
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5801

                  #68
                  Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                  As a disinterested bystander to this thread, who nonetheless lives near Winchester, I add only the information that the Hampshire Chronicle has also, of course, been covering this story.
                  More in yesterday's (20/6/24) Hampshire Chronicle; the Bishop of Winchester has 'commissioned an independent review'.

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                  • Vox Humana
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                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1252

                    #69
                    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post

                    More in yesterday's (20/6/24) Hampshire Chronicle; the Bishop of Winchester has 'commissioned an independent review'.
                    Yes. It's interesting that it took the resignation of a senior non-executive lay member of the chapter for this to happen. You'd have thought that the loss of most of the organists and several lay clerks would have been enough to set the alarm bells ringing, but I guess they're unimportant...

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                    • Pulcinella
                      Host
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 11058

                      #70
                      An article in today's Times:

                      Andy Trenier, the cleric responsible for music at the cathedral, has been the focus of criticism after the implementation of an ‘inclusion and diversity’ strategy

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                      • ocarina
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                        • Mar 2015
                        • 50

                        #71


                        latest from Norm, cum grano salis

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                        • Ein Heldenleben
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                          • Apr 2014
                          • 6925

                          #72
                          Originally posted by ocarina View Post

                          Theres no row quite like a COE row is there ? Incidentally I’ve never found NL to be journalistically unreliable. A purveyor of lightly sourced tittle tattle and gossip yes but very rarely wrong.

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                          • Finzi4ever
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 601

                            #73
                            With an upcoming broadcast of a 'recorded' b/c from the recent SCF, my question here remains germane to this thread: did anyone attend the festival the other week and what was the mood, or indeed mood music?
                            I noticed the Dean was back to introduce the sung eucharist, though not Trenier.

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                            • DracoM
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                              • Mar 2007
                              • 12986

                              #74
                              I understand that an eminent, newly retired DoM is to be drafted into Winchester shortly to help in current situation.
                              Is that correct?

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                              • Caussade
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                                • May 2011
                                • 97

                                #75
                                Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                                I understand that an eminent, newly retired DoM is to be drafted into Winchester shortly to help in current situation.
                                Is that correct?
                                No need to be coy: it was announced by both Winchester and St Alban's in mid June that Andrew Lucas is stepping in for the year 2024-2025. So it's not really insider info.

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