Startling and sad news from Winchester Cathedral

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  • antongould
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    • Nov 2010
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    #46
    Originally posted by Choral Enthusiast View Post

    Yes, a really distressing read.
    it is indeed

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    • PeterboroughDiapason
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      • Mar 2012
      • 72

      #47
      Originally posted by Vox Humana View Post
      What musical qualities determined Trenier's (presumed) suitability for being a precentor? Anyone know?
      Or people-management skills.

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      • vinteuil
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12927

        #48
        In The Times Diary today -

        "Things are getting pointed in a very CofE way at Winchester Cathedral, where there are deep fears over the future of the choir. Last Sunday’s choral evensong included Psalm 35, with its lines about repelling those who plot one’s ruin, followed by Handel’s anthem Insanae et Vanae Curae about “vain and raging cares”. I’m told the singing was “wonderfully heartfelt”."

        [ The Times says Handel - did they mean Haydn?? ]

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        • Pulcinella
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          • Feb 2014
          • 11058

          #49
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          In The Times Diary today -

          "Things are getting pointed in a very CofE way at Winchester Cathedral, where there are deep fears over the future of the choir. Last Sunday’s choral evensong included Psalm 35, with its lines about repelling those who plot one’s ruin, followed by Handel’s anthem Insanae et Vanae Curae about “vain and raging cares”. I’m told the singing was “wonderfully heartfelt”."

          [ The Times says Handel - did they mean Haydn?? ]
          I wonder how far in advance the music list is prepared and publicised.

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          • oddoneout
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            • Nov 2015
            • 9268

            #50
            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
            In The Times Diary today -

            "Things are getting pointed in a very CofE way at Winchester Cathedral, where there are deep fears over the future of the choir. Last Sunday’s choral evensong included Psalm 35, with its lines about repelling those who plot one’s ruin, followed by Handel’s anthem Insanae et Vanae Curae about “vain and raging cares”. I’m told the singing was “wonderfully heartfelt”."

            [ The Times says Handel - did they mean Haydn?? ]
            It's a German name from the "H" section of the list of well-known ancient composers. In terms of today's informed journalism that's close enough...

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            • Pulcinella
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              • Feb 2014
              • 11058

              #51
              Originally posted by jonfan View Post
              Private Eye of 7 June issue makes horrifying reading.
              Just read it in a copy borrowed from a neighbour: horrifying indeed.
              It makes Trollope's Barchester seem almost idyllic.

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              • Cockney Sparrow
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                • Jan 2014
                • 2290

                #52


                "St Albans Cathedral is proud to announce that our Master of the Music, Andrew Lucas, will be taking on the role of Interim Director of Music at Winchester Cathedral after he retires from the Cathedral this summer. This interim position, starting after the departure of Dr. Andrew Lumsden at the end of July, comes with our full support and blessing.

                Andrew Lucas has been an integral part of St Albans Cathedral for 26 years, leading our choir to national and international acclaim. His dedication to musical excellence and his commitment to nurturing young talent have left an indelible mark on our community.

                The Very Reverend Jo Kelly-Moore, Dean of St Albans, stated, “For the last 26 years, Andrew Lucas has been leading excellence in music at St Albans Cathedral. Andrew is a superb musician, who is generous, collaborative, and kind. He is highly respected and well-loved by the whole Cathedral community and beyond. We know that Andrew will be a blessing to the music of Winchester Cathedral.”


                Andrew Lucas expressed his excitement about this new opportunity: “Having worked for almost 27 years at St Albans Cathedral, where musical excellence has always been part of its daily life, I am honoured to be invited to maintain the long tradition of outstanding choral music in the daily worship of Winchester Cathedral. I look forward to providing support and continuity as the choirs, music staff, Chapter and the whole Cathedral community move into a new era with their next Director of Music.”

                We are confident that Andrew will bring his exemplary skills and experience to Winchester, ensuring the continuation of their outstanding choral tradition. While we will miss his daily presence at St Albans, we celebrate this new chapter in his illustrious career and look forward to the mutual benefits this collaboration will bring."


                St Albans Cathedral Supports Andrew Lucas in Interim Role at Winchester Cathedral


                Andrew Lucas certainly doesn't know me. I agree with the sentiments of the St Albans announcement, and from my limited knowledge of him - I wouldn't expect he has any need to put up with a grim working environment. His retirement was known about long before the Winchester situation cropped up.

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                • Finzi4ever
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 601

                  #53
                  Just jaw dropping in the circumstances, as is the latest pro-music video the Dean has posted on the website. Board members' comments please.
                  Last edited by Finzi4ever; 14-06-24, 16:34.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26569

                    #54
                    Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                    Private Eye of 7 June issue makes horrifying reading.
                    Can anyone post a copy of the article in question?
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • mw963
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                      • Feb 2012
                      • 538

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

                      Can anyone post a copy of the article in question?
                      I've PM'd you, as I no longer post on here.

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                      • chitreb
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 126

                        #56
                        The Southern Cathedrals Festival is still running this year. What is it's future?

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                        • DerFreischütz
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                          • Aug 2023
                          • 4

                          #57
                          More Winchester news: https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articl...ishop-steps-in

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                          • kernelbogey
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5801

                            #58
                            As a disinterested bystander to this thread, who nonetheless lives near Winchester, I add only the information that the Hampshire Chronicle has also, of course, been covering this story.

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                            • Ein Heldenleben
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                              • Apr 2014
                              • 6925

                              #59
                              Originally posted by DerFreischütz View Post
                              Very interesting article . I wonder whether the resignation of Mark Byford as non -executive director of the Cathedral Chapter has triggered this review ? Those of us who remember him as an effective BBC deputy Director General will know of his skills in exercising the levers of power…
                              On the other hand it could be completely unconnected.

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                              • mopsus
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 828

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                                Very interesting article . I wonder whether the resignation of Mark Byford as non -executive director of the Cathedral Chapter has triggered this review ? Those of us who remember him as an effective BBC deputy Director General will know of his skills in exercising the levers of power…
                                On the other hand it could be completely unconnected.
                                It helps to have friends in high places, or who have been in them, but in an increasingly secular age they will become harder for Chapters to come by.

                                In fact, how common is it for cathedral chapters to have non-executive directors of this kind? Just curious to know.

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