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  • DracoM
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    CE Chapel of the Old Royal Naval College, Greenwich, London [L] 4.x.23

    CE Chapel of the Old Royal Naval College, Greenwich, London [L] 4.x.23
    Trinity Laban Chapel Choir

    Order of Service:

    Introit: These hours (Adrian Cruft)
    Responses: Lloyd
    Office hymn: For the fruits of his creation (East Acklam)
    Psalms 22, 23 (Brooksbank, Beethoven, Camidge)
    First Lesson: 1 Chronicles 29: 10-19
    Canticles: Stanford in E flat
    Second Lesson: Colossians 3: 12-17
    Anthem: Ego flos campi (Clemens non Papa)


    Hymn: All Creatures of our God and King (Lasst uns erfreuen)

    Voluntary: Postlude in D minor (Stanford)

    Jonathan Eyre (Organist)
    Ralph Allwood (Director of Music)

  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    #2
    Look forward to this...and it's live. I didn't know Ralph A was there.
    I remember the old Trinity College premises at Mandeville Place (and the wonderfully named Principal, Myers Foggin). And now of course they occupy those historic ex-admiralty buildings on the Thames.



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    • Keraulophone
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      • Nov 2010
      • 1996

      #3
      A rare outing for Stanford in E flat, written at Trinity College, Cambridge in November 1873, but unpublished in the his lifetime​. Though lacking the mastery of Stanford's later Canticle settings, Jeremy Dibble, for one, finds some merit in it: '...one is conscious of the ‘verse’ conception, but the approach to structure and harmony is more sophisticated. In the Magnificat the contrast of verse and full choir is more fully integrated into a ternary design where two outer sections in E flat, distinctly secular in style, frame a central 6/8 paragraph in B (‘And his mercy is on them that fear him’) of a pastoral character. It is also interesting to note how the Gloria, which in so many Canticle settings delineates a new section, is here subsumed into the restatement (beginning ‘He remembering his mercy’). The same contrast of solo and choir inhabits the Nunc dimittis, though here it is used to emphasize the opening statement in E flat minor (sung principally by the soloists) and the counterstatement in the tonic major (sung by the choir). There are other nice touches such as the recapitulation of the first line of the text (‘Lord, now lettest thou thy servant’), transformed both by its initial elongated progression and its appearance in the major mode rather than the minor. Moreover, Stanford brings an effective unifying touch to the Gloria by recalling the same material from the Magnificat.​'

      The hymn tune East Acklam is by Francis Jackson, whose 106th birthday would have fallen two days ago; though the great organist and composer did make it to 104.

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      • mopsus
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 850

        #4
        Originally posted by Keraulophone View Post
        The hymn tune East Acklam is by Francis Jackson, whose 106th birthday would have fallen two days ago; though the great organist and composer did make it to 104.
        It's quite widely used now - in fact when visiting a relative last Sunday I heard it on Songs of Praise. Although when it was used at my church during the choir's summer break, some of the congregation said they struggled to sing it without a choir, perhaps because of the wide intervals (a characteristic of FJ's compositions).

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        • Ein Heldenleben
          Full Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 7132

          #5
          Oh my word a fire alarm has gone off….but the choir sings on.

          and now they’ve faded it out.

          ​​​​​​…And now abandoned for a service in Salisbury.

          Last edited by Ein Heldenleben; 04-10-23, 15:28.

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          • Keraulophone
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            • Nov 2010
            • 1996

            #6
            The rarity of Stanford in E flat endures...

            ...until Sunday afternoon at 3 pm, we've been told.
            Last edited by Keraulophone; 04-10-23, 16:06. Reason: Announcement

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            • Ein Heldenleben
              Full Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 7132

              #7
              [QUOTE=Keraulophone;n1286355]The rarity of Stanford in E flat endures...

              ...until Sunday afternoon at 3 pm, we've been told.
              [/QUOTE

              what with undue compression and fire alarms CE isn’t having much luck at the moment .

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              • ardcarp
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11102

                #8
                I was saddened at the fire-alarm situation, especially as the choir was sounding very good up to that point. Presumably they will have re-recorded the damaged bits for Sunday's broadcast.

                How long does it take to turn off a fire-alarm???

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                • Kernow Malc
                  Full Member
                  • Oct 2018
                  • 61

                  #9
                  I was listening and found it rather amusing - especially when the organ turned up the volume to try and drown the alarm out!

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                  • ardcarp
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11102

                    #10
                    .....even more droll when the final prayers included The Bishop of Sherborne (long way from Greenwich) and President Obama's visit to the UK.

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                    • ardcarp
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11102

                      #11
                      Having now heard the amended service (available on catch-up) I thought the singing and the direction were excellent. Lovely sound, with attention to word shapes and phrasing. I'd forgotten how good Lloyd's responses are...especially good Lord's Prayer with some lines of text overlapping. Good too that Stanford in E flat got an outing. Haven't heard it for ages.

                      I did feel that the final hymn seemed a bit of a race between organist and choir? Time running out? But that's a minor niggle.

                      Well done for an excellent CE, Trinity et al.
                      Last edited by ardcarp; 06-10-23, 16:54.

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                      • Finzi4ever
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 603

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                        Having now heard the amended service (available on catch-up) I thought the singing and the direction were excellent. Lovely sound, with attention to word shapes and phrasing. I'd forgotten how good Lloyd's responses are...especially good Lord's Prayer with some lines of text overlapping. Good too that Stanford in E flat got an outing. Haven't heard it for ages.
                        Well done for an excellent CE, Trinity et al.
                        I echo the above - can probably number the occasions I've sung the E flat canticles on the fingers of one hand if that. Richard Lloyd wrote two full choir sets of Responses ( a long time apart), plus an ATB set and another for trebles, in the 90s. Hearing these today took me back to singing them under his direction.

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                        • Navalorganist
                          Full Member
                          • May 2021
                          • 9

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                          Having now heard the amended service (available on catch-up) I thought the singing and the direction were excellent. Lovely sound, with attention to word shapes and phrasing. I'd forgotten how good Lloyd's responses are...especially good Lord's Prayer with some lines of text overlapping. Good too that Stanford in E flat got an outing. Haven't heard it for ages.

                          I did feel that the final hymn seemed a bit of a race between organist and choir? Time running out? But that's a minor niggle.

                          Well done for an excellent CE, Trinity et al.

                          We were 5 mins over in the rehearsal so had to push the pace along a bit. Apologies.

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                          • jonfan
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1464

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                            Having now heard the amended service (available on catch-up) I thought the singing and the direction were excellent. Lovely sound, with attention to word shapes and phrasing. I'd forgotten how good Lloyd's responses are...especially good Lord's Prayer with some lines of text overlapping. Good too that Stanford in E flat got an outing. Haven't heard it for ages.

                            I did feel that the final hymn seemed a bit of a race between organist and choir? Time running out? But that's a minor niggle.

                            Well done for an excellent CE, Trinity et al.
                            Agree. The Stanford is worth more frequent outings based on this performance.

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                            • ardcarp
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11102

                              #15
                              I
                              'd forgotten how good Lloyd's responses are
                              A while ago I remember singing a fairly straightforward (verse repeating?) piece by Lloyd, which had a Lenten or 'Miserere' type message. Very effective. Can anyone remember what piece I'm referring to?

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