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  • hmvman
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    • Mar 2007
    • 1121

    #31
    Originally posted by Ian View Post
    The planet of choral music seems to exist in a parallel universe to, pretty much, the rest of ‘classical’ music
    I would certainly agree with that view, Ian. In our amateur choir people are very happy singing contemporary choral music by composers including Whitacre, Lauridsen, Stroop and Gjeilo and will attend choral concerts locally. However, when I've suggested going to a classical orchestral concert or invited them to the little music appreciation group I run I'm met with looks of horror!

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    • french frank
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      • Feb 2007
      • 30456

      #32
      Originally posted by hmvman View Post
      I would certainly agree with that view, Ian. In our amateur choir people are very happy singing contemporary choral music by composers including Whitacre, Lauridsen, Stroop and Gjeilo and will attend choral concerts locally. However, when I've suggested going to a classical orchestral concert or invited them to the little music appreciation group I run I'm met with looks of horror!
      But a lot (most?) of the time it isn't 'classical music', and the pleasure of singing is quite different from listening.

      I was at a concert of Bristol Choral Society last night - an auditioned choir singing Rossini's Petite Messe Solennelle. We were talking with a friend in the interval - it is a hugely taxing work. You have to be extremely dedicated to tackle something like that, probably a world away from what most people want from participating in a local choir.

      [Adrian Partington conducting - and he was apparently really driving them!]
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • hmvman
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        • Mar 2007
        • 1121

        #33
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        But a lot (most?) of the time it isn't 'classical music', and the pleasure of singing is quite different from listening.
        I would agree with that, FF. I think it's a moot point as to whether the choral music of Whitacre, Stroop, Gjeilo et al is 'classical'. I would say it is but others may disagree. If it isn't what is it?

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
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          #34
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          • french frank
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            • Feb 2007
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            #35
            Originally posted by hmvman View Post
            I think it's a moot point as to whether the choral music of Whitacre, Stroop, Gjeilo et al is 'classical'. I would say it is but others may disagree. If it isn't what is it?
            Contemporary?
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • jean
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              • Nov 2010
              • 7100

              #36
              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              ...Rossini's Petite Messe Solennelle...it is a hugely taxing work. You have to be extremely dedicated to tackle something like that, probably a world away from what most people want from participating in a local choir.
              I'm surprised you say that!

              I have done it with an average sort of choir, and I didn't think it was very hard at all. This choir does quite a range of composers, and the thing they're really not up to is complicated Bach choruses at the proper speed.

              We have to do Rutter sometimes, and I believe some of them like Karl Jenkins. Fortunately they have to go and do him somewhere else, without me.

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              • french frank
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                • Feb 2007
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                #37
                Originally posted by jean View Post
                I'm surprised you say that!

                I have done it with an average sort of choir, and I didn't think it was very hard at all.
                I think another member of the choir posts here and may say, but the friend we were talking to mentioned (as I suggested) the speed the conductor took it at at times. As someone said, it sounded as if he had a train he wanted to catch (not literally).
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • jean
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7100

                  #38
                  I see - I took your driving them as alluding to his firing them with enthusiasm rather than taking it at breakneck speed.

                  What I remember especially from our performance was the Cathedral MD (Timothy Noon at the time) and organist (Richard Lea) playing the piano parts, and the organist emeritus (Terry Duffy) playing the harmonium, all with enormous panache - and what fun it all was!

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                  • ardcarp
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11102

                    #39
                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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                    Do we have a finger down throat emoticon?

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30456

                      #40
                      Originally posted by jean View Post
                      I see - I took your driving them as alluding to his firing them with enthusiasm rather than taking it at breakneck speed.

                      What I remember especially from our performance was the Cathedral MD (Timothy Noon at the time) and organist (Richard Lea) playing the piano parts, and the organist emeritus (Terry Duffy) playing the harmonium, all with enormous panache - and what fun it all was!
                      Not necessarily breakneck, but she gave the impression they felt he was wielding the whip. The pianist probably works the hardest, providing an operatic orchestra for the entire piece - even the conductor gets to sit it out for the 'piano recital'! There was only one piano, plus the harmonium, played by the cathedral's DOM.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #41
                        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                        Do we have a finger down throat emoticon?

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                        • hmvman
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1121

                          #42
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Contemporary?

                          Yes, contemporary classical.

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                          • ardcarp
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11102

                            #43
                            Bryn. Perfect.

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