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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20575

    #46
    In my book, Music Sales belongs with The Borg, Slytherin, the Dark Side, Spectre and Brexit. Everything of quality they take over seems to wither away, apart from the Early Music Shop, which still appears to be OK.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20575

      #47
      Today is a very exciting day. I'm too overwhelmed even to open it just yet.


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      • VodkaDilc

        #48
        Mine arrived a couple of days ago. Especially good to see the Coronation Ode, which, as far as I know, was otherwise out of print. When I performed it in the 1980s, we had to hire the vocal scores.

        (They are always so well-packed that it seems a shame to open them.)

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
          • 20575

          #49
          It's a truly beautiful volume. I never knew there were three versions of the Civic Fanfare. Also I didn't know Elgar effectively inserted repeats into the National Anthem.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20575

            #50
            Last week I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to meet the general secretary of the Elgar Complete Edition for an afternoon discussion. The complexities of such an undertaking are immense, but the interesting side of the discussion was the human angle of a diverse group of people working together with a common purpose.

            Only 13 volumes to go, plus the odd "second edition".

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            • gradus
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              • Nov 2010
              • 5630

              #51
              Anyone see the Elgar score of the Enigma Vars that turned up on the Antiques Roadshow this evening. The owner seemed blithely unaware of the significance of a draft that contained many of the composer's hand-written notes and annotations and questions to Jaeger about whether he liked he liked what Elgar had written. I am no Elgar scholar but it looked extraordinary to me. The expert put a value of £80-£100k on it.

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              • Beef Oven!
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                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                #52
                Thanks for reminding me - I must download the Berio CotW episodes!

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                • ahinton
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 16123

                  #53
                  Originally posted by gradus View Post
                  Anyone see the Elgar score of the Enigma Vars that turned up on the Antiques Roadshow this evening. The owner seemed blithely unaware of the significance of a draft that contained many of the composer's hand-written notes and annotations and questions to Jaeger about whether he liked he liked what Elgar had written. I am no Elgar scholar but it looked extraordinary to me. The expert put a value of £80-£100k on it.
                  Yes - I did. Frankly, I was astonished that it even got onto that programme; I'd have thought that someone would have had the forethought to consult an expert first (and I don't ever recall seeing a score on it previously, let alone autograph stketches). With all the recent shenanigans about whether certain items should go to Worcester or BL, I wonder what will now happen to this?

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                  • Richard Tarleton

                    #54
                    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                    Yes - I did. Frankly, I was astonished that it even got onto that programme; I'd have thought that someone would have had the forethought to consult an expert first (and I don't ever recall seeing a score on it previously, let alone autograph stketches). With all the recent shenanigans about whether certain items should go to Worcester or BL, I wonder what will now happen to this?
                    Or rather, what has happened to it, as the programme would have been recorded months ago - it was a very strange moment. One hopes the "expert" (missed who he was) steered her in the right direction the moment they were off-camera. I missed how it came to be in her - late husband's ? - possession in the first place.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20575

                      #55
                      What an incredible discovery! The Novello volume in the ECE that has already been published, may well be followed by a "2nd Edition" at some stage (as with the Concertos and Gerontius), so a discovery like this would be very important.

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                      • ahinton
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16123

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                        Or rather, what has happened to it, as the programme would have been recorded months ago - it was a very strange moment. One hopes the "expert" (missed who he was) steered her in the right direction the moment they were off-camera. I missed how it came to be in her - late husband's ? - possession in the first place.
                        Indeed. Something about him or his father/uncle/whomsoever being a lay clerk at Worcester Cathedral and having been given it by Jaeger, I seem to remember.

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                        • Richard Tarleton

                          #57
                          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                          Indeed. Something about him or his father/uncle/whomsoever being a lay clerk at Worcester Cathedral and having been given it by Jaeger, I seem to remember.
                          I think the "expert" forgot to exlain to the depressingly ignorant punter that Jaeger means hunter hence Nimrod.....

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                          • gradus
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5630

                            #58
                            I think the expert may have been a little conservative in his estimate of the potential auction value:

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                            • Richard Tarleton

                              #59
                              More in today's Times - the woman who brought the manuscript (not identified during the programme) is a Jude Hooke. Her husband worked at a solicitor's firm at the same time as the former vice-chairman of the Elgar foundation . The Elgar Foundation (chairman: David Mellor) says the Elgar Foundation have no idea how this manuscript left their possession or how it came to be in this woman's hands, she has no proprietary right to it, Christie's have been warned not to sell it, it should be returned, threat of legal action etc. etc.. Ms Hooke has not responded.... Her ignorance terrifying, she said on the programme that she "thought maybe an Elgar autograph might be worth something." Lucky she didn't cut it out.

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20575

                                #60
                                Wow!

                                I must find out more. So it could have been stolen.

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