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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20578

    #31
    I moved this to the new "Scores and Editions" folder, only to discover the images had disappeared. I changed the security setting on my Photobucket account some time ago, so I'll have to try to revive the pictures.

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #32
      I am having a hard time in locating scores for Respighi's music. I do rather like the virtuoso show stopping music, especially Church windows, which I would like to transcribe one day for concert band.
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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        • Nov 2010
        • 20578

        #33
        Two more volumes of the Elgar Society Edition have been published, with a this one on the horizon.

        A volume dedicated to Short Orchestral Works is the fattest volume yet!




        Volume 2 would have been even fatter, so it has been split into two: Vol. 2a and Vol. 2b

        Volume 2b was published first - The Pageant of Empire, plus part-songs with orchestral accompaniment. "The Snow" is a beautiful Algerian setting which deserves to be better known.



        Volume 2a (Scenes from the Bavarian Highlands) is expected within the next few weeks.

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        • Nimrod
          Full Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 152

          #34
          An interesting thread, this. I started collecting miniature scores and then larger ones some 46 years ago when I lived in Lichfield and there was a good s/h bookshop the owner of which was quite keen on selling scores. Later, in travelling around the UK on business I found s/h bookshops all over the place and picked up some very interesting scores. My bound edition of Elgar's symphonies 1 & 2 has notes in it referring to live performances at the Three Choirs of Elgar conducting these works with his timings. My Music Makers score is full size; I looked for an orchestral copy of this score for years and years and eventually tracked this down in a London shop. Several of my Elgar scores are quite old Novello editions. My full list is here:-

          Elgar King Olaf Novello Paper
          Elgar Pomp & Circumstance #4 B&H Paper
          Elgar Pomp & Circumstance #3 B&H Paper
          Elgar Pomp & Circumstance #2 B&H Paper
          Elgar Pomp & Circumstance #1 B&H Paper
          Elgar Overture - Cockaigne B&H Paper
          Elgar Sea Pictures B&H Paper
          Elgar The Wand of Youth Suite No. 1 Novello Paper
          Elgar The Wand of Youth Suite No. 2 Novello Paper
          Elgar The Severn Suite Op 87 Acuta Paper
          Elgar The Music Makers Novello Paper
          Elgar The Music Makers - FULL SCORE Novello Hardback
          Elgar Elegy for Strings-!st Edition Novello Paper
          Elgar Introduction and Allegro Eulenb'g Paper
          Elgar Violin Concerto B&H Paper
          Elgar Dream of Gerontius-Piano Score Novello Paper
          Elgar Falstaff Novello Paper
          Elgar Enigma Variations Novello Paper
          Elgar Symphonies 1 & 2 Novello Hardback
          Elgar In the South Novello Paper
          Elgar Fantasia and Fugue in C minor Novello Paper
          Elgar Serenade for Strings Breitkopf and Hartel Paper
          Elgar Sospiri Breitkopf and Hartel Paper
          Elgar Five Part Songs(TTBB) Novello Paper
          Elgar The Kingdom Novello Paper
          Elgar Cello Concerto Novello Paper
          Elgar The Dream of Gerontius miniature Novello Paper
          Elgar The Apostles Novello Paper
          Elgar Dream of Gerontius-Piano Score Novello Hardback

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          • Pabmusic
            Full Member
            • May 2011
            • 5537

            #35
            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
            I am having a hard time in locating scores for Respighi's music. I do rather like the virtuoso show stopping music, especially Church windows, which I would like to transcribe one day for concert band.
            MPH publish study scores of a lot of Respighi:
            updated November 2024: Repertoire Explorer and Opera Explorer. New: 15 full scores, 5 chamber music "Beyond the Waves", book, special edition
            Last edited by Pabmusic; 25-10-16, 11:15.

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20578

              #36
              Originally posted by Nimrod View Post
              Elgar Violin Concerto B&H Paper
              Surely not?

              I see you have the Acuta Severn Suite.
              They also did a miniature score of the Civic Fanfare - a very small score indeed, but welcome nevertheless.

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              • Pabmusic
                Full Member
                • May 2011
                • 5537

                #37
                Originally posted by Nimrod View Post
                An interesting thread, this. I started collecting miniature scores and then larger ones some 46 years ago when I lived in Lichfield and there was a good s/h bookshop the owner of which was quite keen on selling scores. Later, in travelling around the UK on business I found s/h bookshops all over the place and picked up some very interesting scores. My bound edition of Elgar's symphonies 1 & 2 has notes in it referring to live performances at the Three Choirs of Elgar conducting these works with his timings. My Music Makers score is full size; I looked for an orchestral copy of this score for years and years and eventually tracked this down in a London shop. Several of my Elgar scores are quite old Novello editions. My full list is here:-

                Elgar King Olaf Novello Paper
                Elgar Pomp & Circumstance #4 B&H Paper
                Elgar Pomp & Circumstance #3 B&H Paper
                Elgar Pomp & Circumstance #2 B&H Paper
                Elgar Pomp & Circumstance #1 B&H Paper
                Elgar Overture - Cockaigne B&H Paper
                Elgar Sea Pictures B&H Paper
                Elgar The Wand of Youth Suite No. 1 Novello Paper
                Elgar The Wand of Youth Suite No. 2 Novello Paper
                Elgar The Severn Suite Op 87 Acuta Paper
                Elgar The Music Makers Novello Paper
                Elgar The Music Makers - FULL SCORE Novello Hardback
                Elgar Elegy for Strings-!st Edition Novello Paper
                Elgar Introduction and Allegro Eulenb'g Paper
                Elgar Violin Concerto B&H Paper
                Elgar Dream of Gerontius-Piano Score Novello Paper
                Elgar Falstaff Novello Paper
                Elgar Enigma Variations Novello Paper
                Elgar Symphonies 1 & 2 Novello Hardback
                Elgar In the South Novello Paper
                Elgar Fantasia and Fugue in C minor Novello Paper
                Elgar Serenade for Strings Breitkopf and Hartel Paper
                Elgar Sospiri Breitkopf and Hartel Paper
                Elgar Five Part Songs(TTBB) Novello Paper
                Elgar The Kingdom Novello Paper
                Elgar Cello Concerto Novello Paper
                Elgar The Dream of Gerontius miniature Novello Paper
                Elgar The Apostles Novello Paper
                Elgar Dream of Gerontius-Piano Score Novello Hardback
                Have you seen this catalogue?

                updated November 2024: Repertoire Explorer and Opera Explorer. New: 15 full scores, 5 chamber music "Beyond the Waves", book, special edition

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                • gradus
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5642

                  #38
                  Although I have only a couple of miniature scores of Elgar's music salvaged form Chappell's disastrous Bond Street fire in the sixties, I managed to acquire from the Novello sale of Elgar memorabilia in the nineties a postcard from Elgar at Birchwood to Jaeger, telling him that he had sent to Jaeger by registered post the score and cover of what I believe to be the Enigma Variations with a reference to 'wind parts correction unregistered'. I know it is trivia, hurriedly written and with a smudged signature but it sends my imagination into overdrive every time I read it. I can see Alice hurrying off to the post office with the postcard and parcels, the postmark shows Malvern 7pm 28 August 1899, addressed to A J Jaeger esq, Messrs Novello & Co Ltd, 1 Berners Street, London, W. Somebody (Jaeger?) has ticked the note and written 'ack'.

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20578

                    #39
                    It's very interesting to compare the two volumes of the Concertos. Novello's original volume in the edition, published in 1988 is basically the original engraved scores, published in the early years of the 20th century. The second edition (2014) contains the same works, re-originated with computer software. The difference in presentation is incredible, the stave size being marginally smaller, but with a considerably larger page count. The result is much clearer score, but with many more page turns.

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                    • Nimrod
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 152

                      #40
                      I have a sense of what you mean, Gradus, as I often try to imagine my scores of the 1st and 2nd being in one of the three cathedrals with Elgar himself a few yards away!

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20578

                        #41
                        The cost of each volume is about to rise from £85 (cheaper than Novello's price in the 1990s) to £120. This is still very reasonable.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20578

                          #42
                          Moving house shortly. The Elgar Edition is being packed away safely.

                          Still 14 volumes to go.


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                          • VodkaDilc

                            #43
                            I wish I'd started collecting as soon as you did. My collection is lacking the out-of-print volumes, The Light of Life and The Spanish Lady; and several of my early Novello volumes are paperback. I also missed out on the first edition of Gerontius, but a new version is due before long.

                            A handsome set though - both inside and out.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20578

                              #44
                              Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                              I wish I'd started collecting as soon as you did. My collection is lacking the out-of-print volumes, The Light of Life and The Spanish Lady; and several of my early Novello volumes are paperback. I also missed out on the first edition of Gerontius, but a new version is due before long.
                              I didn't know The Light of Life was out-of-print.

                              The Spanish Lady was one of the volumes the evil Music Sales decided to pulp when they took over Novello. I believe they committed this act of wanton destruction after the Elgar Society had agreed to take over publication.

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                              • VodkaDilc

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                                I didn't know The Light of Life was out-of-print.

                                The Spanish Lady was one of the volumes the evil Music Sales decided to pulp when they took over Novello. I believe they committed this act of wanton destruction after the Elgar Society had agreed to take over publication.
                                I believe that Light of Life was certainly discontinued by Music Sales, if not actually pulped. I've got the old Novello vocal score on my shelf, but somehow it does not look the same!

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