Mahler arrangements.... (of esp. interest to Bbm!)

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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37691

    #16
    Learning that Brassbandmaestro is to do a re-arrangement of Mahler 6 movement 1 has massively raised the respect in which I hold him. Next we'll be learning that he's been approached for a reduction of The Gothic!

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #17
      Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
      Cali, with that brass entry to the end of Mahler's 3rd, I was thinking of maybe arranging that?
      There is already a wind ensemble version of that movement, Bbm:

      The Austin Bowie High School Wind Emsemble playing "Finale to Symphony No. 3" by Mahler at their end of the year concert in May 2009.


      (Because of the static camera in that clip, you don't see the brass and percs, but boy, do you hear them!)

      EDIT: this arrangement, by Richard Saucedo, appears also to be an abridgement - so there's room for an arrangement of the whole Movement!
      RE-EDIT: There's also another arrangement of the Movement by Jimmie Howard Reynolds, but the youTube clip isn't clear whether this is also an abridgement, or whether the clip is an extract from the complete movement.

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      • Nick Armstrong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 26538

        #18
        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        Learning that Brassbandmaestro is to do a re-arrangement of Mahler 6 movement 1 has massively raised the respect in which I hold him. Next we'll be learning that he's been approached for a reduction of The Gothic!
        It's done! It's merely awaiting its première in the US!!

        Have you booked your tickets yet, Bbm? You were going to take Mrs Bbm on a glorious whirlwind North American tour weren't you?
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • cloughie
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          • Dec 2011
          • 22127

          #19
          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          Kind of Gil Evans ca 1960 meets Mantovani, ahem.
          Actually arranged and conducted by Jonathan Tunick 1975 and I guess he was familiar with Mahler 3. Let's not get snobby - Mahler's compositions had their share of schmaltz. I have for a long time liked Judy's version of this as also I have 'Where or When' from 1979 'Hard Times for Lovers' album.
          ...and Cali - nothing can sabotage my love of Mahler 3 - other than probably Mahler 2.

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
            • 37691

            #20
            It's impossible to be snobby about... Gil Evans!

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            • verismissimo
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              • Nov 2010
              • 2957

              #21
              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
              Wot - no arrangements for kazoo??
              Maybe not kazoo, Serial, but plenty of klezmer in the original.

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              • Serial_Apologist
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                • Dec 2010
                • 37691

                #22
                Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                Maybe not kazoo, Serial, but plenty of klezmer in the original.
                Yes, that's a point - and not often referred to, I think.

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                • pastoralguy
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7759

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                  Bloody Hell are you lads trying to sabotage my love of Mahler 3? (Mahler 9 having been wrecked by 'I'm dreaming of a White Christmas' !)

                  Fortunately I'm at work so couldn't hear it really - but I'm assuming there's a thematic link? Don't know the song and that's the way it's gonna stay!!
                  A friend (well, now ex-friend ) said I ruined the first movement of Mahler 6 for him by singing 'Flintstones, meet the Flintstones!

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #24
                    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                    A friend (well, now ex-friend ) said I ruined the first movement of Mahler 6 for him by singing 'Flintstones, meet the Flintstones!
                    Oh - the words of that alays come into my head when I hear the 7/4 main section of the First Movement of Bernstein's Chichester Psalms!
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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22127

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                      It's impossible to be snobby about... Gil Evans!
                      Agreed, or Bill for that matter - I was really aiming at fernie's dislike of the syrup - I rather like the arrangement. Speaking of Mahler arrangements the scaled down Douglas Boyd Manchester Camarata with Kate Royal I interestingly different.

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26538

                        #26
                        There really ought to be a ban or at least a warning on musical cross-references that can torpedo a great work!!!!





                        (I've ignored the various examples above when it was clear from the first few words that people were a-spoiling!!)
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          There really ought to be a ban or at least a warning on musical cross-references that can torpedo a great work!!!!





                          (I've ignored the various examples above when it was clear from the first few words that people were a-spoiling!!)
                          What, like "On Top of Old Smokie" turning up in DSCH 11, or "Three Blind Mice" in Rach's 4th Piano Concerto, you mean?

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                          • Nick Armstrong
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26538

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            What, like "On Top of Old Smokie" turning up in DSCH 11, or "Three Blind Mice" in Rach's 4th Piano Concerto, you mean?
                            Oh Rach PC4 is way past help. Not going to think about the other thing as I don't know the song so na-na-nana-nah!!
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              What, like "On Top of Old Smokie" turning up in DSCH 11
                              Crumbs! It does, doesn't it?


                              (I bet Cali knows the version with the alternative lyrics.)
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                              • Nick Armstrong
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26538

                                #30
                                *Sticks fingers in ears and goes la-la-la-la-la*
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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