Bruckner at the footie?

[AjAjAjH]

Watching the Euro games against Sweden and Ukraine, I wondered why the main theme from Bruckner's 5th Symphony was being chanted by the fans. Any ideas why?

[french frank]

Watching the Euro games against Sweden and Ukraine, I wondered why the main theme from Bruckner's 5th Symphony was being chanted by the fans. Any ideas why?

I've moved this from the Welcome board and retitled it in the hope of more response.

Quant à moi - Euro games? Is this different from the Olympiques?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Watching the Euro games against Sweden and Ukraine, I wondered why the main theme from Bruckner's 5th Symphony was being chanted by the fans. Any ideas why?

As a change from the TeDeum of the match?

[Don Petter]

I thought I detected Peter and the Wolf in the TV introduction. What is the significance of that?

[Flosshilde]

Watching the Euro games against Sweden and Ukraine, I wondered why the main theme from Bruckner's 5th Symphony was being chanted by the fans. Any ideas why?

Does it sound like this? Bah ba ba ba ba baaaah baaah

If it does it isn't Bruckner, but apparently "The White Stripes' 2003 hit "Seven Nation Army", which is played over the stadium PA system after every goal and has been gleefully bellowed along to by supporters of all 16 nations throughout the games.". (Independent, 19th June)

Perhaps someone who is more interested in football than I am can explain why it's neccessary to play any music after a goal is scored. Polite applause & a few cheers would be sufficient. It does sound like something the Americans would do. They'll have women flourishing pom-poms next (& men - I'm sure they would flourish a pom-pom equally well).

[Northender]

Can we please have women flourishing men? (Actually, in our house we're much more interested in tennis, and I guess that a burst of music after every point might be something of a distraction. How about some of Debussy's 'Jeux' between sets?)

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I thought I detected Peter and the Wolf in the TV introduction. What is the significance of that?

I wondered about that too. I thought Prokofiev was Russian, but it seems that he was born in the Ukraine.

[teamsaint]

Does it sound like this? Bah ba ba ba ba baaaah baaah

If it does it isn't Bruckner, but apparently "The White Stripes' 2003 hit "Seven Nation Army", which is played over the stadium PA system after every goal and has been gleefully bellowed along to by supporters of all 16 nations throughout the games.". (Independent, 19th June)

Perhaps someone who is more interested in football than I am can explain why it's neccessary to play any music after a goal is scored. Polite applause & a few cheers would be sufficient. It does sound like something the Americans would do. They'll have women flourishing pom-poms next (& men - I'm sure they would flourish a pom-pom equally well).

Music after goals isn't necessary, It's just VERY annoying.
Worse, when Southampton clinched promotion back to the Premier League, and all the fans just wanted to sing their songs and cheer the players, we were bombarded with non stop music through the PA for about 30 minutes....it was really awful.

As for pom poms...you have to go a LONG way to improve on the Crystal Girls at Crystal Palace.
At half time the big fluffy Eagle mascots join in with the dance routines (Palace are known as the Eagles) and when we went, a REAL eagle was swooping around the whole joyous affair adding a bizarre wild life twist.
Absolute (if mildly sexist) magic.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Music after goals isn't necessary, It's just VERY annoying.
Worse, when Southampton clinched promotion back to the Premier League, and all the fans just wanted to sing their songs and cheer the players, we were bombarded with non stop music through the PA for about 30 minutes....it was really awful.

It's even worse in 20-20 cricket. Orrible music every time there's a 4, a six, a wicket, or the end of the over. I just wish for a constant stream of unplayable no-balls.

[teamsaint]

It's even worse in 20-20 cricket. Orrible music every time there's a 4, a six, a wicket, or the end of the over. I just wish for a constant stream of unplayable no-balls.

you should follow Hampshire ....they have that kind of attack !!

[Flosshilde]

As for pom poms...you have to go a LONG way to improve on the Crystal Girls at Crystal Palace.
At half time the big fluffy Eagle mascots join in with the dance routines (Palace are known as the Eagles) and when we went, a REAL eagle was swooping around the whole joyous affair adding a bizarre wild life twist.
Absolute (if mildly sexist) magic.

Sounds better than the plans for the Olympics opening hoo-ha.

[scottycelt]

Watching the Euro games against Sweden and Ukraine, I wondered why the main theme from Bruckner's 5th Symphony was being chanted by the fans. Any ideas why?

It's been around for a few years now, and I couldn't believe it when I first heard it chanted by fans at a German match.

It is credited to the American rock band, The White Stripes, as Floss states, but a member of the group is on record as conceding that their song was indeed inspired by Bruckner's catchy theme ... well, surprise, surprise!

Even Old Anton's now considered really 'cool' in these enlightened days, it seems, and I've always claimed the same composer also 'pre-invented' 20th Century 'swing music' in the closing bars of the first movement of his Sixth Symphony

[AjAjAjH]

And what a great and much neglected work the Bruckner 6th is. I have the David/LSO live performance and Janjo Mena and the BBC PHil gave a very good performance of it in the Bridgewater Hall last season.

[scottycelt]

And what a great and much neglected work the Bruckner 6th is. I have the David/LSO live performance and Janjo Mena and the BBC PHil gave a very good performance of it in the Bridgewater Hall last season.

The Sixth is criminally neglected. It is so different from the composer's more monumental works, yet it contains arguably his best 'tunes' which still sound so incredibly 'modern' today. If that divinely beautiful slow movement had been penned by Mahler we'd never hear the end of it ...

This symphony is a pure and utter joy!

[Petrushka]

The Sixth is criminally neglected. It is so different from the composer's more monumental works, yet it contains arguably his best 'tunes' which still sound so incredibly 'modern' today. If that divinely beautiful slow movement had been penned by Mahler we'd never hear the end of it ...

This symphony is a pure and utter joy!

I, too, have a soft spot for the 6th and cannot understand its comparative neglect. The first movement is surely one of Bruckner's finest and those horns in the scherzo...! I have a clutch of recordings: Klemperer, Wand, Solti, Karajan, Stein, Haitink, Jochum and Chailly.