Favourite Bruckner symphony recordings?

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  • Alison
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    • Nov 2010
    • 6455

    #91
    Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
    Sorry Pet.... but I could do with a few more specific references to it....(recordings, timings etc....).. you see, that 2+3 really is ubiquitous and very recognisable (with, of course, different stresses in some local contexts..).... another very clear example: the 1st movement/ 2nd subject from No.8, the lovely rising melody initially in the strings...
    Yeah, give us a timing for the Solti 1 perhaps, Pet.

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    • jayne lee wilson
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 10711

      #92
      **
      Latest list-thoughts…

      1-Andreae (modern instrument); Steinaecker (period instrument).
      2-Venzago 1877, Blomstedt 1872 (sharp and quick); Bolton 1872 (leisured & Pastoral).
      3-Blomstedt 1873 (apologies to the excellent x2 Norrington), Andreae 1890; Vanska 1877/8.
      4-Vanska 1888, Norrington 1874; Herreweghe 1878-90…
      5 played too often in youth, not much now…but something crisp and urgent like..…Andreae…
      6 Dausgaard
      7-Herreweghe (Period Instrument); Venzago.
      8-Andreae 1892 (an all-time great); Young 1887; Venzago 1890.
      9…..no clear favourite…. waiting for Dausgaard to do the Completed 9th in Bergen…

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      • Bryn
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        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #93
        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
        . . . 9…..no clear favourite…. waiting for Dausgaard to do the Completed 9th in Bergen…
        His Glasgow and Edinburgh performances with the BBCSSO were very much to my taste.

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        • Barbirollians
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          • Nov 2010
          • 11687

          #94
          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
          Do you mean Celibidache?

          All of his recordings of No.8 are far longer than Venzago using the same Nowak edition....even the quickest SWR Celi is some 83' (much longer in Munich...!), as compared to Venzago at 75'......
          So I'm somewhat confused by your comment "slower and more prolix than..."....
          I was referring to that very dreary Music Web article.

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          • Barbirollians
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            • Nov 2010
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            #95
            Originally posted by Alison View Post
            He pretty much trashes it.

            The messy three part overview does rather typify Musicweb although it is free content where some contributors can be trusted.
            I only read the first part did not see it mentioned . I am with RO in Gramophone who called it the boldest bravest Bruckner 8 on record.

            PS found it now in his Part 3 damned it with faint praise rather than trashed it - Music Web’s reviewer at the time the late Tony Duggan was much more complimentary.

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            • Alison
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              • Nov 2010
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              #96
              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              I only read the first part did not see it mentioned . I am with RO in Gramophone who called it the boldest bravest Bruckner 8 on record.

              PS found it now in his Part 3 damned it with faint praise rather than trashed it - Music Web’s reviewer at the time the late Tony Duggan was much more complimentary.
              Yes I think this item aspired to be a Tony Duggan type retrospective but carries nothing of the same authority.

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              • jayne lee wilson
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                • Jul 2011
                • 10711

                #97
                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                I only read the first part did not see it mentioned . I am with RO in Gramophone who called it the boldest bravest Bruckner 8 on record.

                PS found it now in his Part 3 damned it with faint praise rather than trashed it - Music Web’s reviewer at the time the late Tony Duggan was much more complimentary.
                I wonder if RO ever got around to hearing the Volkmar Andreae 1953 - very bold and brave indeed!....
                (I do have the Barbirolli, bought after the RO review - it is exciting, but I was never drawn back to it from the POV of consistent interpretive interest or sound...very much the live one-off for me..)

                A great shame that so many turn away from the 1892 version through imperfect knowledge of what the edition entails (the revisions from 1890 are subtle but telling, almost all beneficial to my ears...

                "this score surely deserves series attention and - is it too much to hope? - the passionate creative energies of modern-day conductors..."
                Korstvedt, in his indispensable study of the 8th which every Brucknerian should read. .
                Remember, if you've enjoyed any Knappertsbsuch 8th - the 1892 Edition is what you just enjoyed....

                Quite a few Kna 8ths, Berlin PO 1951 or Bavarian SO 1955 my favourites, the latter one on Orfeo hardly a model of orchestral discipline ! But with Kna you take the rough with the smooth ....a great and instinctive Brucknerian...
                Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 13-05-20, 18:26.

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                • Barbirollians
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 11687

                  #98
                  Tintner’s cycle is variable and includes some interesting version choices . I am very fond of his 3rd and 7th . Finally, bought a second hand copy of his recording of the 9th . Really excellent in all three movements.

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                  • Mandryka
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                    • Feb 2021
                    • 1535

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Petrushka View Post

                    9 - VPO/Karajan. A live 1976 performance once available on DG. One of the greatest Bruckner performances I've ever heard. This ought to be never out of the catalogue.

                    Hello

                    If you get the chance, can you confirm that that is this



                    Last edited by Mandryka; 02-10-24, 20:49.

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                    • Petrushka
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      [QUOTE=Mandryka;n1319771]
                      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post

                      9 - VPO/Karajan. A live 1976 performance once available on DG. One of the greatest Bruckner performances I've ever heard. This ought to be never out of the catalogue.

                      /QUOTE]


                      Hello

                      If you get the chance, can you confirm that that is this



                      https://open.qobuz.com/album/0002894777580
                      Unfortunately, I can't access any content by clicking either of those links as they merely ask me to install Qobuz.

                      For additional info which might help: the performance was given on July 25 1976 at Salzburg. The original DG recording was issued in 1992 and the CD catalogue number is 435 326-2 . The bar code is 2894353262.
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • Mandryka
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                        • Feb 2021
                        • 1535

                        Well I am listening to it now and it incandescent. It is here

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                        • Petrushka
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          Originally posted by Mandryka View Post
                          Well I am listening to it now and it incandescent. It is here

                          https://www.discogs.com/release/1929...Philharmoniker
                          Yes, it was also issued in that box but that's the one!
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • Gargoyle
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                            • Dec 2022
                            • 71

                            No. 1 of all time......

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                            • Mandryka
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                              • Feb 2021
                              • 1535

                              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post

                              Yes, it was also issued in that box but that's the one!
                              I'm going to have to listen to all your other Bruckner recs now!

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                              • Barbirollians
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11687

                                The late RCA Bruckner 4 with Wand/BPO just marvellous throughout.

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