Bruckner: Symphonies No.1-3

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I suppose played backwards it would be the opening of Also Sprach Zarathustra - well, almost.

[mathias broucek]

Please define "definitive" in relation to the 8th. Tintner used one of the two Nowak editions, by the way.

Tintner does the earlier 1887 version - I'd forgotten that Novak prepared the publication of that: apologies for any confusion.

By definitive I meant the 1890 version version edited by Novak or Haas. (The Haas is sometimes called 1887/1890 as he includes some - rather beautiful - passages deleted by Bruckner but possibly while acting under the malign influence of Schalk).


There's also a discredited 1892 version which includes "helpful" changes by Schalk. This is no longer performed.

Good summary here

http://www.unicamp.br/~jmarques/mus/bruckner-e.htm#8

[Bryn]

Tintner does the earlier 1887 version - I'd forgotten that Novak prepared the publication of that: apologies for any confusion.

By definitive I meant the 1890 version version edited by Novak or Haas. (The Haas is sometimes called 1887/1890 as he includes some - rather beautiful - passages deleted by Bruckner but possibly while acting under the malign influence of Schalk).


There's also a discredited 1892 version which includes "helpful" changes by Schalk. This is no longer performed.

Good summary here

http://www.unicamp.br/~jmarques/mus/bruckner-e.htm#8

Hmm. Trouble is that Haas also provided his own linking passage work. I'm not so quick to dismiss the Nowak edition of the 1887 version, though his edition of the 1890 version is somewhat more to my liking. I feel the Haas should now be consigned to the history books, along with the Schalk 1892).

[mathias broucek]

Hmm. Trouble is that Haas also provided his own linking passage work. I'm not so quick to dismiss the Nowak edition of the 1887 version, though his edition of the 1890 version is somewhat more to my liking. I feel the Haas should now be consigned to the history books, along with the Schalk 1892).

Historically it's hard to defend Haas but aesthetically I personally prefer it. (IIRC Tintner says something similar in his sleeve note.)

I can't really live with the first movement coda in 1887 although there are some details in the 1887 Scherzo that I rather like.

[mathias broucek]

Historically it's hard to defend Haas but aesthetically I personally prefer it. (IIRC Tintner says something similar in his sleeve note.)

I can't really live with the first movement coda in 1887 although there are some details in the 1887 Scherzo that I rather like.

And once again his early symphonies are eclipsed by the later ones

[BBMmk2]

The Halle Concerts Society sold a handkerchief with Barbirolli's signature and the first 4 notes of Bruckner 3 embroidered upon it. Evidently a work the conductor greatly admired.

Did Barbirolli ever record it?

[Nick Armstrong]

Did Barbirolli ever record it?

Sort of.... (BBC Legends CD from a taped broadcast...)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000679MH4/ref=dm_ws_ps_cdp?ie=UTF8&qid=1415805278&s=music&sr=1-1

[BBMmk2]

Sort of.... (BBC Legends CD from a taped broadcast...)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...s=music&sr=1-1

Better have a butchers there! :)

[Nick Armstrong]

Better have a butchers there! :)

Always a pleasure to do your googling for you, sir !

*doffs cap*

[BBMmk2]

Always a pleasure to do your googling for you, sir !

*doffs cap*

Merci, Monsieur(in the language of my ancestors :) )

[Nimrod]

Barbirollians, yes, this Legends recording of Bruckner 3 is terrific, isn't it, and in good mono. JB at his best!

[BBMmk2]

Bruckner: Symphonies No.1-3

I was just seeing forum member Stanfordian's post on Bruckner's 3rd symphony. I already have a couple of AB's symphony no.1's, but weould like to hear from you good people here, on any other's and perhaps[s views as well?

[visualnickmos]

.....but would like to hear from you good people here, on any other's and perhaps views as well?

Me, too.....

[Thropplenoggin]

Following Jayne's recommendation of the original 1873 version of the 3rd, I've enjoyed this account of it. It's available to stream on Qobuz.

[Conchis]

The first three symphonies have never made that much of an impression on me. I'm hearing the 3rd in a few weeks - the first time I will ever have heard it live - so it will be interesting to find out if that changes my perspective.