Bruckner - Symphony No. 8

[Mandryka]

I'm very keen to see the booklet of the Nagano if anyone can share it.

[BillMatters]

No, but I did hear this 'original ' version years ago in the Bob Simpson days. I didn't like it, I'm afraid. It includes a fortissimo tutti ending to the first movement.

Does anyone remember the Radio 3 series 'A grand mysterious harmony' where they played all the versions of all the symphonies? Wjhat apoty Rdaio 3 doesn't do anything like that these days; but then we all know why. .

I think it was Stephen Johnson who presented the programme, and it would be great to repeat it (or a new version with SJ) in this bicentenary year.

[Mandryka]

Goodall Bruckner 8.

A rather touching anecdote about the performance here

https://liner-notes-magazine.com/articles/a-reluctant-maestro-conducts-bruckners-eighth/

I only saw Goodall once, a Parsifal. He really had a cult following here, I have memories of talking to his followers in the queue for cheap amphi tickets at Covent Garden. Solti's bitchy remark in that article above, that he was not "capable of live conducting" is thought provoking in its way. IMO his Bruckner 8 isn't quite dead.

This comment which I found on amazon seems right to me

But Goodall offers something different - a sense of struggle, wonderment, uncertainty about the destination, which is surely part of the essence of Bruckner and especially of this uniquely disturbing symphony.

That comment reminds me of ideas about how to play Schubert's piano sonatas - Lonquich, Richter's 1961 Paris D840.

[smittims]

Thanks for that. I love that Goodall Bruckner 8. Few others get closer to the heart of the work , for me.

[Mandryka]

No, but I did hear this 'original ' version years ago in the Bob Simpson days. I didn't like it, I'm afraid. It includes a fortissimo tutti ending to the first movement.

Does anyone remember the Radio 3 series 'A grand mysterious harmony' where they played all the versions of all the symphonies? Wjhat apoty Rdaio 3 doesn't do anything like that these days; but then we all know why. .

I find Nagano very satisfying, though I'm not sure whether it's a question of interpretation or edition, probably both. In the first movement there's a passage around 16:20 which is real special for me, and about 12:30 too.

[Barbirollians]

Goodall Bruckner 8.

A rather touching anecdote about the performance here

https://liner-notes-magazine.com/articles/a-reluctant-maestro-conducts-bruckners-eighth/

I only saw Goodall once, a Parsifal. He really had a cult following here, I have memories of talking to his followers in the queue for cheap amphi tickets at Covent Garden. Solti's bitchy remark in that article above, that he was not "capable of live conducting" is thought provoking in its way. IMO his Bruckner 8 isn't quite dead.

This comment which I found on amazon seems right to me

But Goodall offers something different - a sense of struggle, wonderment, uncertainty about the destination, which is surely part of the essence of Bruckner and especially of this uniquely disturbing symphony.

That comment reminds me of ideas about how to play Schubert's piano sonatas - Lonquich, Richter's 1961 Paris D840.

I recall RO savaged it in Gramophone.

But then praised a recording of another Bruckner symphony by him . I haven’t heard either as I don’t like listening to an avowed fascist and Holocaust denier conduct.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Goodall Bruckner 8.

A rather touching anecdote about the performance here

https://liner-notes-magazine.com/articles/a-reluctant-maestro-conducts-bruckners-eighth/

I only saw Goodall once, a Parsifal. He really had a cult following here, I have memories of talking to his followers in the queue for cheap amphi tickets at Covent Garden. Solti's bitchy remark in that article above, that he was not "capable of live conducting" is thought provoking in its way. IMO his Bruckner 8 isn't quite dead.

This comment which I found on amazon seems right to me

But Goodall offers something different - a sense of struggle, wonderment, uncertainty about the destination, which is surely part of the essence of Bruckner and especially of this uniquely disturbing symphony.

That comment reminds me of ideas about how to play Schubert's piano sonatas - Lonquich, Richter's 1961 Paris D840.

I saw him several times in Tristan , The Ring , Mastersingers . With the exception of Carlos Kleiber the greatest Opera conductor I’ve ever seen live. Solti’s Wagner (live ) was superficial in comparison.
Stately tempi certainly but what he got out of the singers and orchestra - I’ve rarely heard the like. And that unerring focus on the end . The way he built to the climax of an Act. I still get tingles thinking about Act 2 Gotterdamerung.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I recall RO savaged it in Gramophone.

But then praised a recording of another Bruckner symphony by him . I haven’t heard either as I don’t like listening to an avowed fascist and Holocaust denier conduct.

Yes that’s what really hampered his career at the ROH as I gather the Royal Family amongst others felt the same. Thankfully Lord Harewood , who fought with some distinction in the War , had a more forgiving nature.

[richardfinegold]

Goodall Bruckner 8.

A rather touching anecdote about the performance here

https://liner-notes-magazine.com/articles/a-reluctant-maestro-conducts-bruckners-eighth/

I only saw Goodall once, a Parsifal. He really had a cult following here, I have memories of talking to his followers in the queue for cheap amphi tickets at Covent Garden. Solti's bitchy remark in that article above, that he was not "capable of live conducting" is thought provoking in its way. IMO his Bruckner 8 isn't quite dead.

This comment which I found on amazon seems right to me

But Goodall offers something different - a sense of struggle, wonderment, uncertainty about the destination, which is surely part of the essence of Bruckner and especially of this uniquely disturbing symphony.

That comment reminds me of ideas about how to play Schubert's piano sonatas - Lonquich, Richter's 1961 Paris D840.

Did Goodall wear his British Fascist Blackshirt while conducting?