Schumann, Robert (1810 - 1856)

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  • EdgeleyRob
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    • Nov 2010
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    #61
    Schumannitarians ?

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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      • Sep 2011
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      #62
      Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
      Schumannitarians ?


      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • richardfinegold
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        • Sep 2012
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        #63
        Has any one mentioned the Kempf set on DG? My favorite versions of the Symphonic Etudes and Children's Pictures.

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        • amateur51

          #64
          Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
          Schumannitarians ?

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          • Sir Velo
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            • Oct 2012
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            #65
            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
            Has any one mentioned the Kempf set on DG? My favorite versions of the Symphonic Etudes and Children's Pictures.
            I have some of the Kempff Schumann recordings. IIRC, he made these recordings when already a septuagenarian (nothing wrong in that per se). Of course, he is superlative in terms of tonal production and at his best in those pieces which require less prestidigitation and more in terms of reflection (i.e. Eusebius). However, he is somewhat pedestrian where more athleticism is called for (i.e.Florestan). This leads to most of the character pieces being somewhat variable.

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            • Pianorak
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              • Nov 2010
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              #66
              Any views on Florian Uhlig recording the complete Schumann? First four volumes are now out.
              Schumann in Vienna | The fourth installment of the first true complete recording of SchumannÂ’s piano works. No competition exists for this compilation anyw
              My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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              • gradus
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                • Nov 2010
                • 5622

                #67
                Haven't heard Uhlig but his absolutely complete Schumann set will apparently be the first. Perhaps CDR will oblige?
                Off-topic, I was intrigued by this: http://www.europadisc.co.uk/classica...ompared’.htm

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                • Pianorak
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3128

                  #68
                  Originally posted by gradus View Post
                  Haven't heard Uhlig but his absolutely complete Schumann set will apparently be the first. Perhaps CDR will oblige?
                  Off-topic, I was intrigued by this: http://www.europadisc.co.uk/classica...ompared’.htm
                  Interesting! While I loved the Sonatine/Erard, I found the Ondine/Erard almost unlistenable. However, the Toccata sounds so much more "alive" on the Erard! I think I might have to get this. My poor credit card!

                  BTW. thanks for the Roland Barthes article which in a way raises more questions than it answers.
                  Last edited by Pianorak; 21-11-12, 12:37.
                  My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                  • Flay
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                    • Mar 2007
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                    Schumannitarians ?
                    Or simply Schumannists?
                    Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                    • richardfinegold
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                      • Sep 2012
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                      I have some of the Kempff Schumann recordings. IIRC, he made these recordings when already a septuagenarian (nothing wrong in that per se). Of course, he is superlative in terms of tonal production and at his best in those pieces which require less prestidigitation and more in terms of reflection (i.e. Eusebius). However, he is somewhat pedestrian where more athleticism is called for (i.e.Florestan). This leads to most of the character pieces being somewhat variable.

                      Kempff's techniques gets adversely critiqued frequently, and this includes recordings he made when he was much younger. Still, he has his fans, including yours truly. I have another recording of the Symphonic Etudes by Marc Andre Hamelin, whose technique is second to none, but I never play it. When I want to hear this piece it is Kempff that I reach for, because he seems to be animating the music from within, as opposed to commenting upon from a distance.

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                      • EdgeleyRob
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12180

                        #71
                        Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                        Has any one mentioned the Kempf set on DG? My favorite versions of the Symphonic Etudes and Children's Pictures.
                        I have that DG box.
                        Seems to get a bad press,not sure why.

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                        • Pianorak
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #72
                          Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                          . . .I have another recording of the Symphonic Etudes by Marc Andre Hamelin, whose technique is second to none, but I never play it. . .
                          Seems I'm not the only one. I heard him quite a few years ago now at Wigmore Hall when he played Schumann a.o. His playing was so run of the mill and routine that I no longer remember what he actually played. And yet he is superb in Albeniz, Alkan, Medtner, Ornstein, Kapustin et al. Very strange.
                          My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                          • jayne lee wilson
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                            • Jul 2011
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                            #73
                            I'm not a huge Schumann pianorak, Pianorak, but have you heard Sofronitsky in Op.13 (or other Schumann, on Denon/Vista Vera)? Sounds stunning to me, a true kindred-spiritual marriage of performer/composer.

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                            • verismissimo
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #74
                              If there's a fire, but I can save two records from my whole collection, they would be Furtwangler's Schumann 4 and Richter in the Op 12 Fantasiestucke and Waldscenen.

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                              • Pianorak
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3128

                                #75
                                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                                I'm not a huge Schumann pianorak, Pianorak, but have you heard Sofronitsky in Op.13 (or other Schumann, on Denon/Vista Vera)? Sounds stunning to me, a true kindred-spiritual marriage of performer/composer.
                                Er - got some of his Liszt, Rachmaninov, Chopin, Scriabin, Prokofiev and Borodin - but no Schumann, which obviously will have to be rectified forthwith! Sofronitsky was held in the highest esteem by Richter, Gilels and Neuhaus. When S called R a genius, R called S a God. Sofronitsky's Chopin Mazurkas are also what you call "a true kindred-spiritual marriage of performer/composer".
                                My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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