Ireland, John (1879-1962)

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  • Stanfordian
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 9322

    #31
    Originally posted by salymap View Post
    I love it. Lord Washington [Tyne & Wear] kindly sent me a CD of the Colin Horsley performance, a pianist I saw playing it years ago and a fine recording.
    Hiya salymap, I agree. I have several recordings of the Ireland piano concerto and my standout account is certainly by Colin Horsley with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra/Basil Cameron that I have on EMI Classics 7 64716 2.

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    • visualnickmos
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3614

      #32
      On Conifer, I have this (Ireland Piano Conc) with Kathryn Stott/RPO/Handley. Found in a charity shop in Eltham many years ago - sorry, I'm mixing my threads; Bargains

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      • Ferretfancy
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3487

        #33
        This work used to be a Proms favourite, and featured on several occasions on the Last Night. I first heard it on 78s in the Eileen Joyce performance, and asked one of the music teachers if he knew it. He promptly sat down and plated part of the slow movement from memory. Later on, Colin Horsley made an early stereo recording with Basil Cameron and the RPO, one of the few Cameron recordings that are still available. It still sounds good on CD. Of modern performances, I enjoy Lenehan, and Eric Parkin made an excellent disc with Boult for Lyrita, I'm not sure if it's available.

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        • salymap
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 5969

          #34
          Someone has brought this old thread to life on the 'Who's on Line' forum.

          I wonder if,in the 20 months that have passed, anyone has read the Ireland book, has views on Bridge or any other subject relating to British composers of that time.

          AND,for me, lovely to feel that we can still learn from old posts from Chris, missed by many, I'm sure. Not maudlin, he was such a great asset to these boards.

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          • clive heath

            #36
            I have three of the four books of piano pieces and am enjoying hearing Eric Parkin showing how they should sound, "Amberley Wild Brooks" included. Playing through them I was struck by how he puts together weird chords that were quite new to me and different from my other piano-pash York Bowen ( where Joop Celis is showing the way hotly pursued by Danny Driver). I heard the concerto at the RFH recently and have now the Lenehan CD and have also found "These Things Shall Be" to be a stunning composition and can I put in a plea for another stunning Choral work "Summer's Last Will and Testament" by Constant Lambert, recorded but performed in public?? I would love to hear it live.

            Eileen Joyce's recording of the Piano Concerto is on my website

            Clive Heath transcribes 78 records onto CD and gets rid of the crackle.


            select "Classical" and number 24 gives you the Shostakovitch and the Ireland

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              #37
              I do rather love John Ireland's music. I have played the brass band pieces he composed. A Comedy Overture, and A Downland Suite.

              This book, however good it is, unfortunately is well outside my budget range.
              Don’t cry for me
              I go where music was born

              J S Bach 1685-1750

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              • salymap
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 5969

                #38
                Both beyond my budget BBM and the print described as small.

                Ithough it might stir up comment on some rather neglected British composers - I must play the Irelamd PC soon.

                Thanks to mercia for links too.

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #39
                  Ah Ireland's PC! What recording do you have, saly?
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • salymap
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5969

                    #40
                    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                    Ah Ireland's PC! What recording do you have, saly?
                    Colin Horsley BBM.

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                    • EdgeleyRob
                      Guest
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12180

                      #41
                      I adore the music of John Ireland,can't afford that book though.

                      I would just die without the Cello Sonata.

                      Here's the heartwrenchingly beautiful slow movement,if this doesn't bring a tear to the eye ........

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                      • BBMmk2
                        Late Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        #42
                        Ireland, John (1879-1962)

                        Just had on Radio 3 this morning Ireland's Comedy overture, version for orchestra. I dare say that, hearing orchestral versions of the original brass band version of the work, feels a bit strange.
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37814

                          #43
                          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                          Just had on Radio 3 this morning Ireland's Comedy overture, version for orchestra. I dare say that, hearing orchestral versions of the original brass band version of the work, feels a bit strange.
                          Like the London Overture, quite a strange piece for ireland, being as it is a sort of cross between Edward German and Eric Coates, I always think.

                          I love John Ireland's music, that he expressed the atmosphere of your beautiful part of the world, Bbm - and that he might possibly have been a bit psychic. I don't happen to think he quite shared Frank Bridge's depth - another Sussex man. Knowing Ireland recommended the young Britten to Bridge I often wonder if the two contemporaries were acquainted: nothing seems to be written up anywhere.

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                          • BBMmk2
                            Late Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20908

                            #44
                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            Like the London Overture, quite a strange piece for ireland, being as it is a sort of cross between Edward German and Eric Coates, I always think.

                            I love John Ireland's music, that he expressed the atmosphere of your beautiful part of the world, Bbm - and that he might possibly have been a bit psychic. I don't happen to think he quite shared Frank Bridge's depth - another Sussex man. Knowing Ireland recommended the young Britten to Bridge I often wonder if the two contemporaries were acquainted: nothing seems to be written up anywhere.
                            Certainly makes you wonder, sometimes. Seems quite uncanny. Another one ye, A Downland Suite, most certainly captures the area, the undulating countryside, of the now National Park. Especially at this time of year, around Ditchling Beacon, when the poppies come out.
                            Don’t cry for me
                            I go where music was born

                            J S Bach 1685-1750

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                            • Mary Chambers
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1963

                              #45
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              Like the London Overture, quite a strange piece for ireland, being as it is a sort of cross between Edward German and Eric Coates, I always think.

                              I don't happen to think he quite shared Frank Bridge's depth - another Sussex man. Knowing Ireland recommended the young Britten to Bridge I often wonder if the two contemporaries were acquainted: nothing seems to be written up anywhere.
                              Surely Britten was having lessons with Bridge well before he met Ireland. I believe it was his viola feacher, Audrey Alston, who recommended him to Bridge. John Ireland taught Britten when he was at the RCM, a couple of years after he had become Bridge's private pupil.

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