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  • grewtw
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    • Nov 2021
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    Wordsworth, William

    William Wordsworth was born in London in 1908.

    Moving from Surrey to the Scottish Highlands in 1961, he helped to form the Scottish Society of Composers.

    Sadly, he has now become one of the ever increasing number of Britain's lost and forgotten composers.

    Although his music was predominantly diatonic he did not eschew atonal procedures when it suited his purpose, for instance in the opening movement of his Symphony no. 2; and he used tape effectively in his tightly written Symphony no. 7. His use of fragmented themes and of unpredictable rhythmic contrasts, which build to form logical and distinctively original statements, was evident in his other symphonies and large-scale works.

    He intended to leave us eight symphonies altogether, most of which could, six years ago, already be heard on you-tube. These have now all been lost:

    First symphony, in F Minor, opus 23, (1944)

    Second symphony, in D Major, opus 34, (1948)

    Third symphony, in C Major, opus 48, (1951)

    Fourth symphony, in E Flat Major, opus 54, (1953)

    Fifth symphony, in A Minor, opus 68, (1960)

    Sixth symphony, "Elegica", with singers, opus 102, (1977)

    Seventh symphony, "Cosmos", opus 107, (1980)

    Eighth symphony, "Pax hominibus", opus 117, (1985)

    As well as the eight lost symphonies there were six string quartets, now similarly lost:

    no. 1, op.16, 1941
    no. 2, op.20, 1944
    no. 3, op.30, 1947
    no. 4, op.47, 1950
    no. 5, op.63, 1957
    no. 6, op.75, 1964

    All these grand symphonies and quartets, now lost to us, have been replaced simply by the sad and insulting message:

    "Video unavailable
    This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been closed."

    So much for poor Mr. Wordsworth.
  • cloughie
    Full Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 22182

    #2
    Originally posted by grewtw View Post
    William Wordsworth was born in London in 1908.

    Moving from Surrey to the Scottish Highlands in 1961, he helped to form the Scottish Society of Composers.

    Sadly, he has now become one of the ever increasing number of Britain's lost and forgotten composers.

    Although his music was predominantly diatonic he did not eschew atonal procedures when it suited his purpose, for instance in the opening movement of his Symphony no. 2; and he used tape effectively in his tightly written Symphony no. 7. His use of fragmented themes and of unpredictable rhythmic contrasts, which build to form logical and distinctively original statements, was evident in his other symphonies and large-scale works.

    He intended to leave us eight symphonies altogether, most of which could, six years ago, already be heard on you-tube. These have now all been lost:

    First symphony, in F Minor, opus 23, (1944)

    Second symphony, in D Major, opus 34, (1948)

    Third symphony, in C Major, opus 48, (1951)

    Fourth symphony, in E Flat Major, opus 54, (1953)

    Fifth symphony, in A Minor, opus 68, (1960)

    Sixth symphony, "Elegica", with singers, opus 102, (1977)

    Seventh symphony, "Cosmos", opus 107, (1980)

    Eighth symphony, "Pax hominibus", opus 117, (1985)

    As well as the eight lost symphonies there were six string quartets, now similarly lost:

    no. 1, op.16, 1941
    no. 2, op.20, 1944
    no. 3, op.30, 1947
    no. 4, op.47, 1950
    no. 5, op.63, 1957
    no. 6, op.75, 1964

    All these grand symphonies and quartets, now lost to us, have been replaced simply by the sad and insulting message:

    "Video unavailable
    This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been closed."

    So much for poor Mr. Wordsworth.
    Looks like this WW wandered with many a tune in his head!

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30456

      #3
      Originally posted by grewtw View Post
      All these grand symphonies and quartets, now lost to us, have been replaced simply by the sad and insulting message:

      "Video unavailable
      This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been closed."

      So much for poor Mr. Wordsworth.
      Search: Youtube "William Wordsworth" Symphony , and quite a lot of them turn up.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Jonathan
        Full Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 952

        #4
        Or have a look at Toccata Classics website for several recordings.
        Best regards,
        Jonathan

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37814

          #5
          Pleasant enough music, rather in the vein of Rubbra, if memory serves me correctly. And a distant cousin, my father mysteriously told me, explaining without further spoiler that William was a descendant of the famous poet, related on my paternal great great grandparents' side, though I have never bothered with investigating this, out of suspicion it might well be a family myth.

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22182

            #6
            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
            Pleasant enough music, rather in the vein of Rubbra, if memory serves me correctly. And a distant cousin, my father mysteriously told me, explaining without further spoiler that William was a descendant of the famous poet, related on my paternal great great grandparents' side, though I have never bothered with investigating this, out of suspicion it might well be a family myth.
            It’s a shame you’re not famous enough to be the subject of ‘Who do you think you are’ S_A!

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            • ahinton
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 16123

              #7
              Originally posted by grewtw View Post
              William Wordsworth was born in London in 1908.

              Moving from Surrey to the Scottish Highlands in 1961, he helped to form the Scottish Society of Composers.

              Sadly, he has now become one of the ever increasing number of Britain's lost and forgotten composers.

              Although his music was predominantly diatonic he did not eschew atonal procedures when it suited his purpose, for instance in the opening movement of his Symphony no. 2; and he used tape effectively in his tightly written Symphony no. 7. His use of fragmented themes and of unpredictable rhythmic contrasts, which build to form logical and distinctively original statements, was evident in his other symphonies and large-scale works.

              He intended to leave us eight symphonies altogether, most of which could, six years ago, already be heard on you-tube. These have now all been lost:

              First symphony, in F Minor, opus 23, (1944)

              Second symphony, in D Major, opus 34, (1948)

              Third symphony, in C Major, opus 48, (1951)

              Fourth symphony, in E Flat Major, opus 54, (1953)

              Fifth symphony, in A Minor, opus 68, (1960)

              Sixth symphony, "Elegica", with singers, opus 102, (1977)

              Seventh symphony, "Cosmos", opus 107, (1980)

              Eighth symphony, "Pax hominibus", opus 117, (1985)

              As well as the eight lost symphonies there were six string quartets, now similarly lost:

              no. 1, op.16, 1941
              no. 2, op.20, 1944
              no. 3, op.30, 1947
              no. 4, op.47, 1950
              no. 5, op.63, 1957
              no. 6, op.75, 1964

              All these grand symphonies and quartets, now lost to us, have been replaced simply by the sad and insulting message:

              "Video unavailable
              This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been closed."

              So much for poor Mr. Wordsworth.
              That files have been taken down from YouTube is hardly an indicator that the works concerned have been "lost" - and other forum members above have given pointers as to where to find them. Several are up on YouTube anyway; go find!
              Last edited by ahinton; 12-12-21, 20:39.

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              • Edgy 2
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                • Jan 2019
                • 2035

                #8
                Originally posted by Jonathan View Post
                Or have a look at Toccata Classics website for several recordings.


                Also Symphonies 1 & 5 taken from BBC broadcasts on Lyrita
                Even more off the radar his Piano Sonata and other pieces played by Margaret Kitchin, also Lyrita c/w Tippet and Hamilton
                “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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                • LeMartinPecheur
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4717

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Edgy 2 View Post


                  Also Symphonies 1 & 5 taken from BBC broadcasts on Lyrita
                  Even more off the radar his Piano Sonata and other pieces played by Margaret Kitchin, also Lyrita c/w Tippet and Hamilton
                  Also symhonies 2 and 3 on Lyrita, LPO/ Braithwaite rec.1990. No sign of BBC that I can see.
                  Seems Lyrita have a bit of a Wordsworth thing?
                  I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                  • HighlandDougie
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3106

                    #10
                    This article from Music Web is an affectionate and informative tribute:

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                    • Serial_Apologist
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37814

                      #11
                      There are a number of Wordsworth works to be found on youtube, including this one of the one-movement Fourth Symphony. This grimly hard-won music of integrity in search of that elusive certainty typifies an austerity found in a lot of British music in the austere 1950s, even when it marshalls its energies: gloomy panelled rooms illuminated by a single 20 watt bulb, ecclesiastically mullioned windows, heavy stock furniture; you get this in much of Rubbra and Rawsthorne too - dull greens and browns, the odd splash of crimson, the only colour schemes available in a rationed Britain - and that's just for the external décor!

                      Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30456

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                        There are a number of Wordsworth works to be found on youtube, including this one of the one-movement Fourth Symphony. This grimly hard-won music of integrity in search of that elusive certainty typifies an austerity found in a lot of British music in the austere 1950s, even when it marshalls its energies: gloomy panelled rooms illuminated by a single 20 watt bulb, ecclesiastically mullioned windows, heavy stock furniture; you get this in much of Rubbra and Rawsthorne too - dull greens and browns, the odd splash of crimson, the only colour schemes available in a rationed Britain - and that's just for the external décor!

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRY8vY8vYkxjnE
                        I'm getting a "This video isn't available any more" message :-(
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37814

                          #13
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          I'm getting a "This video isn't available any more" message :-(
                          My apologies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRY8vYkxjnE

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30456

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            Thanks.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Edgy 2
                              Guest
                              • Jan 2019
                              • 2035

                              #15
                              Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                              Also symhonies 2 and 3 on Lyrita, LPO/ Braithwaite rec.1990. No sign of BBC that I can see.
                              Seems Lyrita have a bit of a Wordsworth thing?
                              No

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