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  • jayne lee wilson
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    • Jul 2011
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    Sallinen, Aulis

    ​...in response to some Listening Thread comments....

    Aulis
    Sallinen: Cello Concerto OP.44 (1976). Jan-erik Gustaffson/Norrkoping SO/Rasilainen. CPO CD, Sallinen Edition 2011.
    A superbly imaginative 20-minute adagio/moderato is followed by a light and brilliant presto-prestissimo. A stunning piece, c/w...
    Symphony No.6. OP.65 (1990). " From a New Zealand Diary".

    When I first heard it, I was - disappointed. It seemed loose, overlong, episodic, anecdotal of its songs, marches and dances. It seemed no match for the brilliance and memorable cogency of 3 and 4 (thrilling discoveries!). But early this morning after the concerto I was gripped from the first bar by a sonic imagination & a freewheeling musical allusiveness which I seemed completely to miss, or misunderstand, first go... the 3rd movement, "Kyeburn Diggings", is an extraordinary Ivesian Vision, where dark, static, dreamlike chords and glittering textures are cut across by raucous popular marches - and yes, it actually quotes... Columbia, Gem of the Ocean….


    Looking back now, I do at least recall my disappointment with the 7th, called "The Dreams of Gandalf" based on an abandoned Lord of the Rings ballet... No.8 seemed like a fragmentary, weary echo of former glories...the 5th has three very evocative middle-movement intermezzi but I felt the longer outer ones were...(critical cliché alert) - "over-extended"...

    For me the "core" achievements were the Symphonies 3 and 4 - very spare, sub-25' 3-movement works tightly argued from short, simple motifs...
    No.2 "Symphonic Dialogue", a brilliantly playful percussion concerto. (What?! An ENTERTAINING percussion concerto? It's really true...)
    Best single CPO issue, or best starting point at least, is probably the one with 2,4 and the Horn Concerto, another work in his lighter lyrical vein...

    Oh and, the BIS issue of 4&5 seemed to me less recommendable than these CPO releases, which have excellent, audiophile grade sound.

    ***
    Top-Recommend....Norrkoping/DS Rheinland-Pfalz/Rasilainen/CPO
    Qobuz is the world leader in 24-bit Hi-Res downloads, offering more than 100 million tracks for streaming in unequalled sound quality 24-Bit Hi-Res


    ...there is a complete set of CDs on CPO too, gorgeous set with three wonderful concertos & great notes.....
    Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 18-03-20, 14:34.
  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
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    #2
    Thanks for the tip, jayne. High time I got to familiarise myself with Sallinen's music.

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    • Dave2002
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      • Dec 2010
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      #3
      I must listen to this one again - Some Aspects of Peltoniemi Hintrik's Funeral March (arr. for String Orchestra)

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      • BBMmk2
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        Must explor this composer. And others of this period. Any suggestions please?
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

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        • LMcD
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          • Sep 2017
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          #5
          Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
          Must explor this composer. And others of this period. Any suggestions please?
          Rautavaara, Part ?

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          • jayne lee wilson
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            • Jul 2011
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            #6
            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
            Rautavaara, Part ?
            Sallinen is from a very different tradition, out of a Sibelian organic development of small motives and cells in his 1st Symphony, but soon following his own very individual furrow..... rather like Simpson or Rubbra did here, but not sounding like them or anyone else really....

            But the music certainly isn't minimalist, even if it can have an intense spirituality of its own as its organic, fluid structures progress......

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            • visualnickmos
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
              Sallinen is from a very different tradition, out of a Sibelian organic development of small motives and cells in his 1st Symphony, but soon following his own very individual furrow..... rather like Simpson or Rubbra did here, but not sounding like them or anyone else really....

              But the music certainly isn't minimalist, even if it can have an intense spirituality of its own as its organic, fluid structures progress......
              Jayne
              You've made me want to investigate Sallinen's music. There's nothing better than being introduced to "new" composers, and walking into a whole new discovery !
              Merci !

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
                • 11062

                #8
                Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                I must listen to this one again - Some Aspects of Peltoniemi Hintrik's Funeral March (arr. for String Orchestra)
                It's included in the 2CD set I mentioned in the What are you listening to thread yesterday, though I'm not sure that will be the same version if there's an arrangement too:


                Looks like ts on that thread has set the ball rolling with what may well be lots of new music for us all to investigate, following jlw's recommendations!

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
                  • 11062

                  #9
                  The 5CD CPO set that jlw recommended has just arrived, so that's my listening sorted for a while.

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                  • teamsaint
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                    The 5CD CPO set that jlw recommended has just arrived, so that's my listening sorted for a while.
                    Aulis well that ends well, then.

                    Enjoy.
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
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                      • Dec 2010
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                      Aulis well that ends well, then.

                      Enjoy.
                      Aulis is not what he seems!

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                      • Serial_Apologist
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                        • Dec 2010
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                        #12
                        Just to draw attention to a rare Sallinen work being presented today in Afternoon Concert: the Third String Quartet. To make allowances for this rare and coveted event it will be necessary to trawl through rather a lot of other stuff to reach it!

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                        • Master Jacques
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                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1927

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                          Just to draw attention to a rare Sallinen work being presented today in Afternoon Concert: the Third String Quartet. To make allowances for this rare and coveted event it will be necessary to trawl through rather a lot of other stuff to reach it!
                          Thank goodness it's in one movement, which should spare us the (now customary) Afternoon Concert dissection. A strong and gripping piece, which I prefer to the orchestral version AS made (later?)

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                          • smittims
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                            • Aug 2022
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                            #14
                            Yes, I cought that broadcast by accident and enjoyed it, an original work. I didn't know his output but I remember his Mauermusik from many years ago , and I think there's a rather striking cello concerto.

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                            • Master Jacques
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                              • Feb 2012
                              • 1927

                              #15
                              Originally posted by smittims View Post
                              Yes, I cought that broadcast by accident and enjoyed it, an original work. I didn't know his output but I remember his Mauermusik from many years ago , and I think there's a rather striking cello concerto.
                              If you're interested in exploring Sallinen again, don't forget that the early operas and symphonies lie at the heart of his work. Few contemporary works have hit me so hard as The Horseman and The Red Line (which the Finns brought to Sadler's Wells, and it felt a privilege to be present for it), or indeed the pulverising 3rd Symphony, which is for me one of the very best late 20th century symphonies. It has something to say, says it, and then stops.

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