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  • Richard Barrett
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    • Jan 2016
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    Bussotti, Sylvano (1931-)

    Is Bussotti now the last remaining member of his generation of avant-garde composers? His work is certainly somewhat neglected in comparison to most of the others, which is a shame since some of his work is very beautiful, especially the larger-scale pieces. I haven't heard many of them in concert, though there was a memorable performance of his Rara Requiem at the QEH some time in the 1980s. (Irrelevant anecdote: after that concert finished I spotted someone in the audience I thought was Bussotti, which would have been odd since he hadn't taken a bow at the end, but I was so convinced I went up to him and asked if he was the composer. No, he replied, but here is a composer for you; he stepped aside and standing behind him was Hans Werner Henze, with whom I had a brief chat.)

    The reason for my starting this thread, though, was that yesterday I downloaded a double CD of Bussotti I didn't know existed until then, consisting of a single work Il catalogo รจ questo (named after the line in Don Giovanni I guess, though this isn't made clear). I used to have an LP of this and listened to it often, but in the meantime it seems to have grown to about three times its previous duration. It's a wonderful example of Bussotti at his most intricately opulent (sounding a bit like Andrew Clements there ), full of strange collage-like mixtures of romantic/tonal elements surrounded by glittering and virtuosic, um, encrustations, nobody can do that quite like Bussotti.

    The Luxembourg Philharmonic (and various soloists) is conducted by Arturo Tamayo. I got it from Presto Classical.
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    I suppose it depends how "avant-garde" is defined - Christian Wolff (born three years later) is still alive and active (my only chance for a "brief chat" passed me by last Saturday night - we were both in the Gents' loo at the University of Leeds Music Dept, and, as we hadn't been introduced, it somehow didn't seem appropriate).

    CDs of both Rara Requiem and Il catalogo are available at not frightening prices from Amazon - I have only a single, ten-minute piece of his in my collection; one of those figures I've frequently heard about in texts (and with his astonishing visual artwork scores) but never had opportunity to listen to properly. As ever, youTube to the rescue; starting with:

    Sylvano Bussotti (*1931): The Rara Requiem, work in progress per 7 voci, violoncello, chitarra e 15 strumenti (1969).Italo Gomez, violoncelloMauro Gangi, chi...
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Richard Barrett
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      • Jan 2016
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      #3
      Interesting... that Youtube recording of Rara Requiem (a very beautiful piece IMO) isn't the same as the one released by DG in the late 1970s. I shall be giving those a close comparison, to see how variable the interpretation of his notations turns out to be - not very, I expect (although most of his music is more or less conventionally notated, the pages that turn up in book illustrations etc. usually turn out to be the more "graphic" ones).

      Also on Youtube you can hear Sinopoli's glittering recording of the ballet Bergkristall.

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      • teamsaint
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        • Nov 2010
        • 25225

        #4
        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
        Interesting... that Youtube recording of Rara Requiem (a very beautiful piece IMO) isn't the same as the one released by DG in the late 1970s. I shall be giving those a close comparison, to see how variable the interpretation of his notations turns out to be - not very, I expect (although most of his music is more or less conventionally notated, the pages that turn up in book illustrations etc. usually turn out to be the more "graphic" ones).

        Also on Youtube you can hear Sinopoli's glittering recording of the ballet Bergkristall.
        2 and a half installments on the AGP as well, with Rara Requiem removed.
        Some great looking liner notes etc as well, though I haven't actually read Them .
        Or listened to any of the music.
        all to look forward to.
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        • Richard Barrett
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          • Jan 2016
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          #5
          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          2 and a half installments on the AGP as well, with Rara Requiem removed.
          I wonder why that work has been removed while the music for orchestra hasn't (since all of those recordings are out on CD).

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          • teamsaint
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            • Nov 2010
            • 25225

            #6
            Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
            I wonder why that work has been removed while the music for orchestra hasn't (since all of those recordings are out on CD).
            Theres quite a bit which hasn't been removed, mostly stuff that has been reissued more recently I'd guess.

            I downloaded these installments two years ago, and RR had been removed at that point.

            Edit: the Recording of Bergkristall on the AGP is the Sinopoli.
            Last edited by teamsaint; 08-07-17, 13:32.
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            • Richard Barrett
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              • Jan 2016
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              #7
              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
              the Recording of Bergkristall on the AGP is the Sinopoli.
              Yes, that's the only recording that's been released I think.

              We have a Casa Bussotti here at the moment - I've been listening to all my recordings, and signora is preparing for a performance of his Fragmentations (for one player on two harps) at the other end of the house.

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              • Richard Barrett
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                • Jan 2016
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                #8
                Originally posted by teamsaint
                the services of a roadie
                That would be me, ts. I'm already in training.

                I think you're right about the Lorenzaccio Symphony, although there are parts of Bergkristall which are very elegant and clear in presentation, like its fifth movement whose five "sections" are first heard separately, then in various combinations, and finally all simultaneously - this is a kind of form that occurs often in SB's work (for example at the beginning of the Requiem which is played through five times in different ways) which is full of self-quotation and reassembly.

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                • teamsaint
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25225

                  #9
                  Sorry, I deleted my post which didnt come out quite how I wanted.

                  Son playing bass in a metal band a few years ago was enough of the life of a roadie for me for a while.......

                  Anyway, Bergkristall has plenty for the beginner to get hold of I think.
                  I've had the Requiem lined up all weekend, but not got round to it. Later , hopefully.
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • Bryn
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    I suppose it depends how "avant-garde" is defined - Christian Wolff (born three years later) is still alive and active (my only chance for a "brief chat" passed me by last Saturday night - we were both in the Gents' loo at the University of Leeds Music Dept, and, as we hadn't been introduced, it somehow didn't seem appropriate). ...
                    Not only your loss but Christian's too. I'm sure he would have welcomed you introducing yourself, especially if you also mentioned your participation in a performance of The Great Learning. He and Cardew were very much artistic comrades in arms, never mind what Feldman may have shouted (with Cage concurring) during the Scratch Orchestra's Munich performance of Wolff's Burdocks.

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                    • Richard Barrett
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                      • Jan 2016
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                      Sorry, I deleted my post which didnt come out quite how I wanted.
                      I liked the bit about being back in the 1960s sitting in an Italian villa listening to Bussotti on a quadrophonic system. I would have been on my way to visit you on my Vespa with a rucksack full of rare open-reel tapes.

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                      • teamsaint
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25225

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                        I liked the bit about being back in the 1960s sitting in an Italian villa listening to Bussotti on a quadrophonic system. I would have been on my way to visit you on my Vespa with a rucksack full of rare open-reel tapes.

                        I'd look forward to that !!
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                        • Beef Oven!
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                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          #13
                          One of my first 'off the beaten track' CDs that I bought was DG's Rara Requiem & Bergkristall with Sinopoli about 25 years ago, now!

                          About three or four years ago, I was downsizing my CD collection and Roehre made a request for it. If you come back mate, I can send it to you!

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                          • Richard Barrett
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                            • Jan 2016
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            If you come back mate, I can send it to you!
                            Have another listen first, I think you might find it better than you remember.

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                            • Beef Oven!
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                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                              Have another listen first, I think you might find it better than you remember.
                              No, I'm just keeping my word! I'd rather keep it, now!

                              Slightly disingenuous in that I know Roehre won't be looking in and my CDs are safe!

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