Debussy, Claude (1862-1918)

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  • Dave2002
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    • Dec 2010
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    Debussy, Claude (1862-1918)

    Debussy wrote a Première Rhapsodie for clarinet and accompaniment, originally for clarinet examinations at the Paris Conservatoire.

    Did he ever write a Deuxième?
  • rauschwerk
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    Nope.

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    • Richard Barrett
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      • Jan 2016
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      #3
      That isn't quite true - there is also a rhapsody for alto saxophone and orchestra, orchestrated by Jean Roger-Ducasse from a short score Debussy left incomplete at his death.

      Saxophone - Jean-Marie LondeixConductor - Louis de FramentOrchestra of Radio Luxembourg

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
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        #4
        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
        That isn't quite true - there is also a rhapsody for alto saxophone and orchestra, orchestrated by Jean Roger-Ducasse from a short score Debussy left incomplete at his death.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ikPiMRxRE
        Thanks - I hadn't heard of this piece before now. Anything previously unheard by this composer truly makes my day!

        One of the alternative youtubes dates the piece between 1901 and 1911, which makes sense in terms of the sound of the music and its materials: the opening theme has reminiscences of "L'après-midi" and maybe unsurprising pre-echoes of the solo flute piece "Syrinx", composed a year later.

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        • Dave2002
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          #5
          Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
          That isn't quite true - there is also a rhapsody for alto saxophone and orchestra, orchestrated by Jean Roger-Ducasse from a short score Debussy left incomplete at his death.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ikPiMRxRE
          Indeed, but I don't think there was a second Rhapsodie for clarinet - so the first one, with the grand title "Première Rhapsodie" seems to have been a little bit over optimistic.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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            #6
            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
            Indeed, but I don't think there was a second Rhapsodie for clarinet - so the first one, with the grand title "Première Rhapsodie" seems to have been a little bit over optimistic.
            Not necessarily - the First Brandenburg Concerto for 2 Hunting Horns, 3 Oboes, Bassoon, Piccolo Violin, 2 Violins, Viola and Basso Continuo wasn't followed by a Second Brandenburg Concerto for 2 Hunting Horns, 3 Oboes, Bassoon, Piccolo Violin, 2 Violins, Viola and Basso Continuo. Berio's Sequenza I for solo Flute wasn't followed by the Sequenza II for solo Flute ...
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Dave2002
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              #7
              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              Not necessarily - the First Brandenburg Concerto for 2 Hunting Horns, 3 Oboes, Bassoon, Piccolo Violin, 2 Violins, Viola and Basso Continuo wasn't followed by a Second Brandenburg Concerto for 2 Hunting Horns, 3 Oboes, Bassoon, Piccolo Violin, 2 Violins, Viola and Basso Continuo. Berio's Sequenza I for solo Flute wasn't followed by the Sequenza II for solo Flute ...
              Fair does - well spotted - almost worthy of pedants' corner, I think.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                #8
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • jayne lee wilson
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                  • Jul 2011
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                  That isn't quite true - there is also a rhapsody for alto saxophone and orchestra, orchestrated by Jean Roger-Ducasse from a short score Debussy left incomplete at his death.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ikPiMRxRE
                  There's a lovely recording of it in this fascinating anthology, and if you don't know the Choral Varié of Vincent D'Indy you're in for a gorgeous, languorous, decadently laid-back treat....
                  Listen to unlimited or download D'Indy/Schmitt/Tomasi/Milhaud/Debussy: Saxophone Concertos by Vladimir Jurowski in Hi-Res quality on Qobuz. Subscription from £10.83/month.

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                  • Joseph K
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                    • Oct 2017
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                    #10
                    I have to say, Debussy's Pelleas is incredibly beautiful, but its exquisite expression is a subtle one. I've only listened to the whole thing through about twice. The first time I followed the libretto along with it - but found the storyline a bit moot. I think this is the first time I've ever listened to a whole opera without following the libretto (except Ferneyhough's Shadowtime) and it's made me wonder why I haven't done it more. Just listening to great music and singing is enough.

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                    • Richard Barrett
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                      I have to say, Debussy's Pelleas is incredibly beautiful, but its exquisite expression is a subtle one. I've only listened to the whole thing through about twice. The first time I followed the libretto along with it - but found the storyline a bit moot. I think this is the first time I've ever listened to a whole opera without following the libretto (except Ferneyhough's Shadowtime) and it's made me wonder why I haven't done it more. Just listening to great music and singing is enough.
                      That's interesting, I don't often listen to opera with a libretto, for the works I know I would have done it once at some point to get an idea of what's going on, but after (and before) that I'm on my own. I must get to know Pelléas better though, I'm very interested in Debussy at the moment, partly because for some weird reason my 2yo son insists on listening to La Mer every morning. Who know's what's going on in that little head.

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                      • Joseph K
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                        • Oct 2017
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                        some weird reason my 2yo son insists on listening to La Mer every morning. Who know's what's going on in that little head.
                        Aww that's great! Sounds like something great, whatever it is. :p

                        I probably exaggerated when I said it's the first time ever... but nonetheless (and I'm probably just saying this for totally uninteresting personal reasons) for some reason the idea of listening to an opera aside from its storyline is somewhat liberating...

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                        • Serial_Apologist
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                          That's interesting, I don't often listen to opera with a libretto, for the works I know I would have done it once at some point to get an idea of what's going on, but after (and before) that I'm on my own. I must get to know Pelléas better though, I'm very interested in Debussy at the moment, partly because for some weird reason my 2yo son insists on listening to La Mer every morning. Who know's what's going on in that little head.
                          La mer was pretty much my starting point into modernism - so he's got a 13 year head start on me; you're lucky!

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                          • Richard Barrett
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            La mer was pretty much my starting point into modernism - so he's got a 13 year head start on me; you're lucky!
                            He has modernism in his genes, S_A!

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                            • Bryn
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                              • Mar 2007
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                              He has modernism in his genes, S_A!
                              Never took you for a Lysenkoist.

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