Stockhausen, Karlheinz (1928-2007) 4-9 Jan

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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #16
    I refer m'learnéd friend to the OP:
    Originally posted by Oddball View Post
    Having lived for the past year or so with Schoenberg/Gould piano pieces on my CD player, the comparison with Stockhausen's "drawings", and other piano pieces on last night's H&N was immediate.

    But the immediate and noticeable difference is that Schoenberg's pieces were so melancholic - full of Angst, I think the term is. Stockhausen's works in contrast are actually very happy and cheerful.
    In response to which I pointed out Arnie in happy mode, to which RB made the comment which you quote*.

    (And, in rejoinder to which, I deleted the comment "and don't call me Shirley".)
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26523

      #17
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      I refer m'learnéd friend to the OP:

      In response to which I pointed out Arnie in happy mode, to which RB made the comment which you quote*.

      (And, in rejoinder to which, I deleted the comment "and don't call me Shirley".)
      Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #18
        You mean there's ever a "right" one?!
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26523

          #19
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          You mean there's ever a "right" one?!
          Airplane! The movie with highlights of Lloyd Bridges' "I picked the wrong week. . ." for cigarettes, drinking, amphetemines, glue. Pure classic.
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #20
            Oh, brilliant! I'd completely forgotten that runner!
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Quarky
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 2656

              #21
              Stockhausen's portrayal of a Woman's madness absolutely compelling on H&N last night. Gather his mother was killed by the Nazis for that reason.

              Hear and Now going from stength to strength!

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26523

                #22
                "Stockhausen when came to Huddersfield" Radio FOUR, Thursday 19.11.15

                Can't see any reference to this so far.

                Another mysterious example of R4 broadcasting a programme which looks more suited to R3 (presumably because someone on R3 will be too busy playing music backwards... actually, it's too late in the morning to clash with the fun and games but why let chronological accuracy stand in the way of rhetorical effect...? )
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #23
                  Indeed, clearly to highbrow for Radio 3 these days.

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                  • pastoralguy
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7739

                    #24
                    Thanks for the heads up. I saw him in Edinburgh and he really struggled to make sense of our Queens Hall. He started out by saying that concert hall construction was too centred on acoustic music and radicals such as himself were not given, as he saw it, their due.

                    I seem to remember that he went down like a lead balloon.

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                    • Sydney Grew
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 754

                      #25
                      Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                      . . . I seem to remember that he went down like a lead balloon.
                      Nevertheless it does not of course do to attach blame to the man himself; he poor unsound fellow was a product of the circumstances of the Second War and not only that, his mother poor woman was unhinged before him.

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                      • mercia
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8920

                        #26
                        "When Stockhausen Came to Huddersfield"

                        Radio 4 this morning 11:30 - the ubiquitous Ian McMillan

                        The poet Ian McMillan on what really happened when Stockhausen came to Huddersfield.

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                        • ahinton
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 16122

                          #27
                          Originally posted by mercia View Post
                          Radio 4 this morning 11:30 - the ubiquitous Ian McMillan
                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06pd3bt
                          Might there be some kind of umbilical connection between ubiquity and the surname McMillan (however it's spelt)?

                          By the way, I've never forgotten the copy of a Daily Telegraph (I think) article by the music critic Martin Cooper entitled Stockhausen's Cosmic Trips sent to me by Sorabji around 40 years ago in which, in characteristic red ink, he had lifted the third letter of the second word onto the front of the third one...

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                            Might there be some kind of umbilical connection between ubiquity and the surname McMillan (however it's spelt)?

                            By the way, I've never forgotten the copy of a Daily Telegraph (I think) article by the music critic Martin Cooper entitled Stockhausen's Cosmic Trips sent to me by Sorabji around 40 years ago in which, in characteristic red ink, he had lifted the third letter of the second word onto the front of the third one...
                            What a Berberian!

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                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #29
                              Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                              ...............sent to me by Sorabji around 40 years ago in which, in characteristic red ink, he had lifted the third letter of the second word onto the front of the third one...
                              A gratuitous name-drop that would even do MrGG proud!

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                              • ahinton
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 16122

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                                A gratuitous name-drop that would even do MrGG proud!
                                But I still have the evidence!

                                Anyway, why are there two threads on this?
                                Last edited by ahinton; 19-11-15, 13:09.

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