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  • John Skelton

    Xenakis, Iannis

    Christopher Fox on Xenakis in today's Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011...?newsfeed=true
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    Visceral masterpieces, as potent as the day they were written, the Arditti/Pace concert of the chamber works has been a mouth-watering must-see event that I've been eagerly anticipating for the past three months. I hope the Beeb's mics will be there for everyone who can't be!

    Thanks for this link, JS
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • John Skelton

      #3
      It's an amazing programme this year, ferney - I'm deeply envious. Have a great time .

      To give myself a pre-tantiliser I'm listening to Arne Deforce / Ensemble musikFabrik's CD of Xenakis' Complete 'Cello Works.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #4
        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        I hope the Beeb's mics will be there for everyone who can't be!
        They weren't!

        A pity: this concert more than lived up to my hopes and it would've been good to discuss it on these Boards. I would also have loved to hear again Ian Pace's unbelievable performance of Evryvali - "unbelievable" in that I was there and I still don't believe that what he did was possible! Not only was the work rattled off in a good three minutes less than Claude Helffer's comparitively sedate recording, but the weighting and voicing of each chord was individually coloured - and there were about ten a second! The instrument was left steaming and visibly quaking on stage during the next piece: a tremendous performance of ST/4 that brought out the wit as well as the power of the work.

        The other works were magnificently performed, too, with the possible exception of Tetora which sounded under-powered to me, and suffered from some dodgy intonation. It was as if the Ardittis were galvanized by Pace's performance (which was the second item) into hurling themselves into the remaining works.

        In some parallel universe, the Beeb sent their cameras so that everyone could share the high jinks of Irvine Arditti's struggles with the Huddersfield Music Stands (ominously labelled "Huddersfield Polytechnic Music Department"!) one of which refused to stay in position, and the Quartets' chair-scraping pantomime, all of which added to the joy of one of the highlights of a fantastic Festival.

        Best Wishes.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37691

          #5
          What a missed opportunity, dammit!

          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          Evryvali
          ... must have been exalted.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #6
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • heliocentric

              #7
              Originally posted by John Skelton View Post
              Christopher Fox on Xenakis in today's Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011...?newsfeed=true
              "uniquely ancient and modern". Yes.

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              • NolanRita

                #8
                Thanks for sharing, I truly enjoyed it as something totally new, unique and striking.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NolanRita View Post
                  Thanks for sharing, I truly enjoyed it as something totally new, unique and striking.


                  ... and a very warm welcome to these Boards, NolanRita.
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Beef Oven

                    #10
                    Xenakis (et al) for dummies

                    Over the past 3 days or so I have interpolated a fair bit of my Pierre Boulez, Luciano Berio, Edgar Varese, Karlheinz Stockhausen and Luigi Nono CDs into my playlist.

                    If I liked that, what else should I try?

                    About 20 years ago I bought a number of CDs with some birthday money and one of them was a Xenakis CD. I'd never heard of him, sounded interesting. Thought he might be Greek. Played it twice. Utterly confused. Didn't play it again. Can't find it. Must be lost. I only have O-level maths.

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                    • LeMartinPecheur
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4717

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                      Over the past 3 days or so I have interpolated a fair bit of my Pierre Boulez, Luciano Berio, Edgar Varese, Karlheinz Stockhausen and Luigi Nono CDs into my playlist.

                      If I liked that, what else should I try?

                      About 20 years ago I bought a number of CDs with some birthday money and one of them was a Xenakis CD. I'd never heard of him, sounded interesting. Thought he might be Greek. Played it twice. Utterly confused. Didn't play it again. Can't find it. Must be lost. I only have O-level maths.
                      Never mind yer maths, hows yer architecture?

                      I have a Warner Classics Xenakis twofer with Phlegra, Jalons, Keren, Nomos Alpha, Thallein, Naama, A l'ile de Goree, Khoai and Komboi. Don't understand it but I like it. I think...

                      How are you on Ligeti? - I've got yards of it...
                      Last edited by LeMartinPecheur; 11-05-13, 21:20.
                      I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                      • Beef Oven

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                        Never mind yer maths, hows yer architecture?
                        Worse

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                        • MrGongGong
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 18357

                          #13
                          Xenakis is one of the most accessible composers IMV
                          you don't have to understand the whole Stochastic thing at all
                          Last year I showed a class of 10 year olds this



                          then put this on their computer suite



                          showed them some of this



                          and one of the children said

                          "hey, you can design music like you can design a building"

                          What's so hard about it ?

                          IMV people confuse something being difficult to play with being difficult to understand


                          (but he does like to have his titles in Klingon )

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • Beef Oven

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              Xenakis is one of the most accessible composers IMV
                              you don't have to understand the whole Stochastic thing at all
                              Last year I showed a class of 10 year olds this



                              then put this on their computer suite



                              showed them some of this



                              and one of the children said

                              "hey, you can design music like you can design a building"

                              What's so hard about it ?

                              IMV people confuse something being difficult to play with being difficult to understand


                              (but he does like to have his titles in Klingon )
                              Can one confuse difficult to understand with difficult to enjoy?

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