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  • Lat-Literal
    Guest
    • Aug 2015
    • 6983

    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post


    This is a work of staggering genius IMV

    Thank you.

    Originally posted by Beef Oven!
    Lat, it’s pretty much all Xenakis and like we’ve done with numerous threads in this new sub-forum, we could ask for the title to be updated. What do you think?
    See Post 9.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      Right - three Threads mainly concerned with Iannis, all merged into the new home.

      Apologies for the delay - I was wondering who Al was.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • teamsaint
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 25272

        Useful looking article by Tom Service here,

        which is really a beginners guide.

        Apologies if has been linked earlier in the thread.
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • mahlerfan
          Banned
          • Aug 2021
          • 118

          I've liked what I've heard of Xanakis' music and I've been eying this up.

          Available as a Hi-Res (24/192) download for a reasonable price for 2.5 hours of music on Qobuz sublime.

          Can some of the forum's Xenakis likers give me a steer as to whether this is a good buy for £20.59 or a good bye to hard earned cash?

          Are these some of his best pieces?

          I would very much appreciate a steer.

          Thank you in anticipation......


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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            Originally posted by mahlerfan View Post
            I've liked what I've heard of Xanakis' music and I've been eying this up.

            Available as a Hi-Res (24/192) download for a reasonable price for 2.5 hours of music on Qobuz sublime.

            Can some of the forum's Xenakis likers give me a steer as to whether this is a good buy for £20.59 or a good bye to hard earned cash?

            Are these some of his best pieces?

            I would very much appreciate a steer.

            Thank you in anticipation......


            Good heavens! 192/24. I must import.
            Last edited by Bryn; 04-06-22, 09:52. Reason: Typos

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            • mahlerfan
              Banned
              • Aug 2021
              • 118

              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              Goos heaves! 192/24. I must import.
              Yes, I did. But I can't let go of 'ownership'

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                Originally posted by mahlerfan View Post
                Yes, I did. But I can't let go of 'ownership'
                As John Cage, following Bucky Fuller, put it "Getting rid of ownership, substituting use".
                Last edited by Bryn; 04-06-22, 09:53. Reason: Typo

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                • mahlerfan
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2021
                  • 118

                  Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                  As John Cage, following Bucky Fuller, put it *Getting rid of ownership, substituting use".
                  You gonna practice what you preach?

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Originally posted by mahlerfan View Post
                    You gonna practice what you preach?
                    In this and many other cases, yes.

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                    • mahlerfan
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2021
                      • 118

                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      In this and many other cases, yes.
                      Those 'other cases' full of CDs and other collectables, or Cage's 'substitutes'?

                      I bet your loft is full of hard copy!!

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                      • Mandryka
                        Full Member
                        • Feb 2021
                        • 1582

                        I listened to Tetras the other day, it’s very fine music, I’d forgotten how nice it is.

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                        • RichardB
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2021
                          • 2170

                          Originally posted by mahlerfan View Post
                          Are these some of his best pieces?

                          I would very much appreciate a steer.
                          These pieces are all from the 1960s and recorded then or soon afterwards. Some of them have been released in better performances and/or recordings since then. They are all essential Xenakis though, and classic recordings. Syrmos and Polytope de Montréal are explorations of massed sound textures (for strings and for 4 orchestras respectively). Kraanerg was written as a ballet and is Xenakis's longest composition, using a chamber orchestra combined in various ways with prerecorded and electronically transformed orchestral sounds. Medea and Oresteia consist of choruses and incidental music for classical dramas (by Seneca and Aeschylus respectively) and are accordingly written in a more "archaic" style than the other works. Are they some of his best pieces? Certainly.

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                          • mahlerfan
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2021
                            • 118

                            Originally posted by RichardB View Post
                            These pieces are all from the 1960s and recorded then or soon afterwards. Some of them have been released in better performances and/or recordings since then. They are all essential Xenakis though, and classic recordings. Syrmos and Polytope de Montréal are explorations of massed sound textures (for strings and for 4 orchestras respectively). Kraanerg was written as a ballet and is Xenakis's longest composition, using a chamber orchestra combined in various ways with prerecorded and electronically transformed orchestral sounds. Medea and Oresteia consist of choruses and incidental music for classical dramas (by Seneca and Aeschylus respectively) and are accordingly written in a more "archaic" style than the other works. Are they some of his best pieces? Certainly.
                            Thank you for this.

                            I feel, on balance, that I'd do well to acquire these recordings and take it from there.

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                            • RichardB
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2021
                              • 2170

                              Originally posted by mahlerfan View Post
                              I feel, on balance, that I'd do well to acquire these recordings and take it from there.
                              I don't think you'll be disappointed. These are some of the pieces that put Xenakis on the map, despite disapproval by the official "avant-garde" in general and Pierre Boulez in particular.

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                              • Mandryka
                                Full Member
                                • Feb 2021
                                • 1582

                                I listened to some Xenakis recently -- Tetras. I'd forgotten how wonderful it is!

                                I went back to it because I read a review of a quartet concert with some Parra and Xenakis, and some Cage I think. The reviewer, who spent most time talking about the Parra, said at the end that the most memorable and striking thing in the concert was Tetras. I'm nor surprised!

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