Xenakis, Iannis

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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
    According to the sleeve notes with my Decca HEAD LP, he has been in exile in France since 1947 and was granted French citizenship in 1965 (the LP was issued in 1976).
    Sadly, Xenakis died in 2001 (on my birthday, which was a bit of a mood dampener!): he returned to Greece in the years before his death after democrasy was restored to Greece. There is a very moving film documenting his life that used to be on youTube but which now seems to have been withdrawn (the title is a play on the "stranger"/"foreigner" origins of his name) - he recites Full fathom five in English from his memories of his schooldays.
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Richard Barrett

      Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
      (the LP was issued in 1976)
      - and those notes were already out of date: his death sentence in Greece, commuted to ten years' imprisonment in 1951, had finally been lifted in 1974 so that he was able to travel back to Greece. His widow recalled in an interview in 2009 that he kept the Greek passport he was then given (having been stateless between 1947 and 1965) close by him for the rest of his life.

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      • Richard Barrett

        There's plenty of biographical information about Xenakis on the net, including this detailed timeline http://www.iannis-xenakis.org/xen/bio/bio.html which contains a moving paragraph by Maurice Fleuret who accompanied Xenakis on his first post-exile visit to Greece.

        While we're on Xenakis anecdotes connected with English poetry: one of the last times I saw him was in 1994, when I happened to be in Paris and he invited me to visit him at his studio: the first thing he wanted to talk about was the poetry of John Donne, a subject which embarrassingly I was pretty ignorant of at the time, though afterwards I went off and boned up on it "just in case"... one of his late works Sea-Nymphs sets "Full fathom five" - I wonder which text of Donne he might have been contamplating working on...

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        • ahinton
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 16122

          Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
          There's plenty of biographical information about Xenakis on the net, including this detailed timeline http://www.iannis-xenakis.org/xen/bio/bio.html which contains a moving paragraph by Maurice Fleuret who accompanied Xenakis on his first post-exile visit to Greece.

          While we're on Xenakis anecdotes connected with English poetry: one of the last times I saw him was in 1994, when I happened to be in Paris and he invited me to visit him at his studio: the first thing he wanted to talk about was the poetry of John Donne, a subject which embarrassingly I was pretty ignorant of at the time, though afterwards I went off and boned up on it "just in case"... one of his late works Sea-Nymphs sets "Full fathom five" - I wonder which text of Donne he might have been contamplating working on...
          Thank you very much for these fascinating insights; I wonder how many people, other than Xenakis scholars and experts, would have known about most of this?

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          • KipperKid

            Thank you all for the most interesting information on this great man.

            My book and cd were from about 25 years ago, and could not have researched anything close to the level of information on this thread!

            I did not know he had received a death sentence. My appetite is whetted for further reading.

            P.S. probably for a different thread, and put in my mind by ferney's post, is the word 'xenophobia' derived from the Greek philosopher, Xenophanes, due to his bemoaning of the alleged reduction in the quality of the Greek population during his lifetime, or did words including a 'Xeno' reference predate him?

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            • Richard Barrett

              Originally posted by KipperKid View Post
              is the word 'xenophobia' derived from the Greek philosopher, Xenophanes
              No. ("xenos" with the meaning of "foreigner" occurs already in Homer.)

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              • KipperKid

                Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                No. ("xenos" with the meaning of "foreigner" occurs already in Homer.)
                Yes, of course.

                Keep threatening to re-read The Iliad.

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                • Lat-Literal
                  Guest
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 6983

                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Not a composer I know much about, but I know he has advocates amongst forumites (and the OCD in me likes to have an X in the list of composers ).
                  What with your excellent post and some behind-the-scenes enterprise of which even ferney is unaware, it's Rebonds all round.

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                  • MrGongGong
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                    What with your excellent post and some behind-the-scenes enterprise of which even ferney is unaware, it's Rebonds all round.


                    This is a work of staggering genius IMV

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      A very interesting interview, IMV.


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                      • Beef Oven!
                        Ex-member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        Part 2

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20570

                          The other Xenakis thread seems to have eluded the "transfer" market.

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                          • Lat-Literal
                            Guest
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 6983

                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            The other Xenakis thread seems to have eluded the "transfer" market.
                            It wasn't elusive.

                            But it was "Xenakis et al".

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20570

                              Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                              It wasn't elusive.

                              But it was "Xenakis et al".
                              Well it eluded me. Just think of the fun of extracting the Xenakis posts from the "et al" thread and transferring them.

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                              • Lat-Literal
                                Guest
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 6983

                                Originally posted by Beef Oven!
                                It’s virtually all Xenakis.

                                Back in May 2013 I had an inkling that a new sub-forum would be created 4 years later, but I threw in the 'et al' in parenthesise, anyway
                                It was offered by me and the decision went against it.

                                I'm content with it - we have a new thread.

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