Ferneyhough

[Sydney Grew]

. . . masterfully in control of what sounds to me like an incredibly complex score (though that is just an impression, I don't actually know anything about it). . . .

I wonder, are the categories "true" and "false" applicable to music? And if so, is the truth simple or "incredibly complex"?

[Tapiola]

I wonder, are the categories "true" and "false" applicable to music? And if so, is the truth simple or "incredibly complex"?

"In art, the impossible has a chance of success, while the certain is deceptive and hopeless" (Alfred Schnittke)

[Richard Barrett]

"In art, the impossible has a chance of success, while the certain is deceptive and hopeless" (Alfred Schnittke)

“The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.” (Paul Dirac)

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

“The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.” (Paul Dirac)

Very true.


But, then again ...

[Daniel]

Hi Sydney,

... if so, is the truth simple or "incredibly complex"?

Yes.


(Actually it often feels to me as if there is a kind of absolute and universal quality in some music that might be labelled truth. But something I might find so, in say a Beethoven Quartet, somebody in a Rwandan slum might find alien and stifling, and find a similar truth in a quite different way. So the truth itself that the music seems to convey to me might be universal, but it would seem perceiving its presence in any given piece of music is at least dependent on cultural conditioning.)

[ahinton]

“The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.” (Paul Dirac)

Without wishing to bring this down to a level well below what you're saying here, one response to some of the latest Trumpery that I've heard of late runs "what's the difference between fake news and real news? - well, fake news is real and real news is fake"...

[Joseph K]

So... I searched 'La Terre Est Une Homme' into youtube and found this.

It's made my day.

https://www.nmcrec.co.uk/recording/la-terre-est-un-homme

[Serial_Apologist]

Thanks JK - and well done!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

It's made my day.

Just your day?!

Many, many thanks, JK - I had no idea that this was on the cards. I already have the works involved on an assortment of off air recordings, but it will be great to hear them at professional recording standards - and Exaudi doing the Missa, too!

I think this means I can be first to nominate my "Disc of the Year" in advance of the Thread starting in December!

[Keraulophone]

I’m sure certain folk on here will hardly need reminding that Brian Ferneyhough will receive an Honorary Doctorate from Birmingham City University’s Royal Birmingham Conservatoire on Sunday 9 December as part of a special day of concerts and events, arranged by Birmingham Contemporary Music Group (BCMG) and the Royal Birmingham Conservatoire, to celebrate his 75th birthday.

https://www.bcu.ac.uk/news-events/news/renowned-composer-brian-ferneyhough-to-receive-top-university-honour

[Joseph K]

I’m sure certain folk on here will hardly need reminding that Brian Ferneyhough will receive an Honorary Doctorate from Birmingham City University’s Royal Birmingham Conservatoire on Sunday 9 December as part of a special day of concerts and events, arranged by Birmingham Contemporary Music Group (BCMG) and the Royal Birmingham Conservatoire, to celebrate his 75th birthday.

https://www.bcu.ac.uk/news-events/ne...versity-honour

I had no idea this was happening, so thank you very much for bringing it to our attention!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I had no idea this was happening, so thank you very much for bringing it to our attention!

Nor had I - and my thanks, too.

[Bryn]

Nor had I - and my thanks, too.

Have you booked your tickets yet? To be interviewed by Howard Skempton, eh? Talk about chalk and cheese re. compositional outcomes.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Have you booked your tickets yet? To be interviewed by Howard Skempton, eh? Talk about chalk and cheese re. compositional outcomes.

I don't think I'll be able to get there - a pity; I've never heard Funerailles*. And, yes - it would be great to hear what HS (one of the most generous-minded Musicians I've ever encountered) gets out of BF.

* - Live, that is!

[Cockney Sparrow]

................So... I searched 'La Terre Est Une Homme' into youtube and found this.
It's made my day...................https://www.nmcrec.co.uk/recording/l...e-est-un-homme

I am intrigued by such wholehearted recommendations. Y Tube is great to listen, and establish if I want to listen more, maybe buy the recordings. But just to say, for anyone with access* its also on Naxos Music Library, with a PDF available as well (Catalogue No.: NMCD231).

* #16, et al : http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...-library/page2