Radigue, Eliane

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  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #16
    Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
    I will suspend judgement until I hear more of her music, which I soon will, and I hope there will be things happening in it when I do, but on the evidence of Transmorem-Transmortem, there is very little happening for twenty five quid, and what there is isnt worth half a p. Dont get me wrong, I am very much in favour of avant garde experiments, but there has to be something there for we ignorant people to be confused by. There is nothing in that CD except turntable rumble, and I paid a lot of money for my hifi so that it doesnt rumble.

    And if you find "lots of things happen" in Radigue's music, what do you find happens in Transamorem - Transmortem except a bad case of worn turntable bearings? I paid at least twenty quid for that CD and I have heard nothing except a bad joke. Its not Radigue's music that infuriates me, it is that she charges me a lot of money for nothing. I've already got plenty of nothing, in case she hasnt noticed, but at least I wont fall for that one again.
    I'm happy to make do with the 256kbps AAC-LC offering o YouTube. Not too much lost from that. Listening to it is a very personal and highly variable experience. I would avoid the use of headphones. Using speakers one gets to involve oneself much more in the music. Even a slight change in the orientation of one's head changes the mix of frequencies perceived.

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    • Mandryka
      Full Member
      • Feb 2021
      • 1560

      #17
      I was at this London concert last night

      Éliane Radigue is regarded as one of the most innovative and influential composers working today. Up until 2000, she produced electronic works.


      Wonderfu! I honestly sat there thinking that there was no better way to spend my life than by listening to Radigue. Helene Breschand stole the show IMO!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMqvZdl6Kzc&ab_channel=H%C3%A9l%C3%A8neBre schand

      The problem is that this is so hard to hear on a hifi. Quiet music which still has great presence, and music which really depends on effects with high order partials.
      Last edited by Mandryka; 02-10-23, 08:10.

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      • silvestrione
        Full Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1722

        #18
        'High order partials'! What a great phrase...are those the sounds I can't actually hear anymore, I wonder?

        (I was guilty of being uncomplimentary about Eliane Radigue here once, after trying one of her pieces, but realise I responded far too quickly and it just reflected on me)

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        • RichardB
          Banned
          • Nov 2021
          • 2170

          #19
          Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
          'High order partials'! What a great phrase...are those the sounds I can't actually hear anymore, I wonder?
          I think he means "high partials", so yes, maybe! I don't know what "higher order partials" means in acoustics, I thought it was a term from calculus.

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
            • 37813

            #20
            Originally posted by RichardB View Post
            I think he means "high partials", so yes, maybe! I don't know what "higher order partials" means in acoustics, I thought it was a term from calculus.
            Part-time attenders at the House of Lords?

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            • Mandryka
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              • Feb 2021
              • 1560

              #21
              High partials . . . high order paritals . . . 3rd partial . . . 4th partial . . . . Bof!

              Anyway, I tried to listen to one of the solo Occam pieces at home today, and it just didn't work for me. I ain't gettin' enough partials.


              By the way, in the concert someone actually started snoring, Loud. At first I thought it was some weird harp effect from Rhodri Davies, but no . . . Quite a good sound actually.

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              • Mandryka
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                • Feb 2021
                • 1560

                #22
                Enjoying Nadjorlak iii this morning - I guess Nadjorlak is really made up of the the first acoustic Occam pieces, just not in name. I think the sound on the first Charles Curtis recording is very good, it somehow captures the idea that the music is both quiet and strong. I don’t normally get into this sort of thing at home, and I wonder if the sound quality of the recording is what’s making the difference for me.

                I just noticed that there’s a live Nadjorlak i from Charles Curtis on Bandcamp.

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37813

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Mandryka View Post
                  High partials . . . high order paritals . . . 3rd partial . . . 4th partial . . . . Bof!

                  Anyway, I tried to listen to one of the solo Occam pieces at home today, and it just didn't work for me. I ain't gettin' enough partials.


                  By the way, in the concert someone actually started snoring, Loud. At first I thought it was some weird harp effect from Rhodri Davies, but no . . . Quite a good sound actually.


                  "Purely by chance" is not a dimension one would apply to Ms Radigue's music, methinks!

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