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  • pastoralguy
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7816

    I'm very keen to get the Boult CfP Elgar 2 with the SNO transcribed to silver disc. Maybe soon...

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    • LMcD
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      • Sep 2017
      • 8697

      Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
      It'a a great recording. Hurst was to record no. 2 as well, but he became ill and Downes was brought in for it, producing another great performance.
      I shall definitely give it another listen. Perhaps I was subconsciously worrying about Br*x*t instead of giving it my full attention.
      I've become a great admirer of the BBC MM recording of Boult's performance at the Proms in 1976 (I think that's the right date).
      Thank you for explaining why there were different conductors with the same orchestra.

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      • cloughie
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        • Dec 2011
        • 22206

        Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
        I'm very keen to get the Boult CfP Elgar 2 with the SNO transcribed to silver disc. Maybe soon...
        Yes long overdue!

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
          I'm very keen to get the Boult CfP Elgar 2 with the SNO transcribed to silver disc. Maybe soon...
          Annoying that that EMI recording wasn't included in the Warner "Boult Complete Elgar" Box.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • cloughie
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            • Dec 2011
            • 22206

            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            Annoying that that EMI recording wasn't included in the Warner "Boult Complete Elgar" Box.
            So much for being complete!

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20576

              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
              Barbirolli and Thomson are the ones to match for me!
              In the case of Barbirolli, I go for the early Nixa (1) and mono EMI (2) versions.

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              • Pabmusic
                Full Member
                • May 2011
                • 5537

                Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                Im...
                I've become a great admirer of the BBC MM recording of Boult's performance at the Proms in 1976 (I think that's the right date)....
                I was present at that performance. Boult conducted only the second half of the concert (I can't recall the 1st half). He sat for the whole thing . The atmosphere was electric - and he made no break between the slow mvt. and the beginning of the last - he kept his baton raised. And you can sense that on the recording.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                  (I can't recall the 1st half)
                  Britten's Canadian Carnival Ovt & Barber's Violin Concerto; Edward Downes conducted, and Ralph Holmes was the soloist.
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Pabmusic
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                    • May 2011
                    • 5537

                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    Britten's Canadian Carnival Ovt & Barber's Violin Concerto; Edward Downes conducted, and Ralph Holmes was the soloist.
                    Thank you, Ferney. You know - if you'd asked me if I'd ever heard the Barber VC live (a favourite) I'd have said 'no'. But forgetting is an important part of memory - I read that somewhere once.

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                    • pastoralguy
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7816

                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      Annoying that that EMI recording wasn't included in the Warner "Boult Complete Elgar" Box.
                      I looked up the original review in Gramophone from 1964 and it's criticised for the lack of weight of string tone although the writer does admit that other 'non-London' orchestras have the same problem since the limited pool of players tend to gravitate towards the metropolis.

                      Iirc, the recording was originally made by the 'Waverley' label, long since defunct, so I wonder if the original tapes still exist.

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22206

                        Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                        I looked up the original review in Gramophone from 1964 and it's criticised for the lack of weight of string tone although the writer does admit that other 'non-London' orchestras have the same problem since the limited pool of players tend to gravitate towards the metropolis.

                        Iirc, the recording was originally made by the 'Waverley' label, long since defunct, so I wonder if the original tapes still exist.
                        Waverley was taken over by EMI, so anything may have happened in the demise! However it did appear on LP on World Record Club and then CFP, both of which were EMI labels so there is a chance that the tapes still exist in the Warner (exEMI) vaults.

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                        • pastoralguy
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7816

                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          Waverley was taken over by EMI, so anything may have happened in the demise! However it did appear on LP on World Record Club and then CFP, both of which were EMI labels so there is a chance that the tapes still exist in the Warner (exEMI) vaults.
                          Very possibly, cloughie. Alas, I suspect there's no commercial advantage to be gained in re-issuing this recording. I do know a fiddle teacher of mine who was a very fine player played under Boult in the SNO so it's possible he played on this record. It's definitely on my list to be transferred to cd as funds allow.

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                          • cloughie
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                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22206

                            Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                            Very possibly, cloughie. Alas, I suspect there's no commercial advantage to be gained in re-issuing this recording. I do know a fiddle teacher of mine who was a very fine player played under Boult in the SNO so it's possible he played on this record. It's definitely on my list to be transferred to cd as funds allow.
                            Yes, as has been commented on these boards Warner do box reissues but seem reluctant to do single CDs - reviving CFP would be very welcome!

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                            • pastoralguy
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7816

                              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                              Yes, as has been commented on these boards Warner do box reissues but seem reluctant to do single CDs - reviving CFP would be very welcome!
                              Absolutely! Especially for old buffers such as myself!

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                              • LMcD
                                Full Member
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 8697

                                We are fortunate to have so many fine recordings of Elgar's works to enjoy. Tonight I listened, absolutely captivated, to Mark Elder and the Halle in the 1st symphony. Beautifully paced overall, which some lovely playing in quieter passages and a particularly thrilling 2nd movement. (The same programme also featured a really sparkling recording of K449 with the Manchester Camerata and young M. Bavouzet).

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