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  • ScotOp69
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    • Mar 2024
    • 21

    Michael Torke

    Is anyone here into Torke? He's one of the few Composers alive today who's music I actually enjoy. "PostMinimalist" stuff. Unfortunately much of his output is mired in Christianity but I just ignore it. His Book of Proverbs for Chorus & Orchestra is gorgeous. Also his Four Proverbs for Soprano & Ensemble. His latest releases "Being" & "Time" for Large Ensemble are insanely catchy. I think his star has waned though in the past couple of decades since he had a big contract with Boosey & Argo Records in the 90s.
  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 11114

    #2
    Originally posted by ScotOp69 View Post
    Is anyone here into Torke? He's one of the few Composers alive today who's music I actually enjoy. "PostMinimalist" stuff. Unfortunately much of his output is mired in Christianity but I just ignore it. His Book of Proverbs for Chorus & Orchestra is gorgeous. Also his Four Proverbs for Soprano & Ensemble. His latest releases "Being" & "Time" for Large Ensemble are insanely catchy. I think his star has waned though in the past couple of decades since he had a big contract with Boosey & Argo Records in the 90s.
    Sub Reich and Adams for me, ScotOp, though you've possibly aroused interest in searching out the pieces you mention.
    I have an Argo sampler (Javelin: the music of Michael Torke) but that's it.

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    • teamsaint
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      • Nov 2010
      • 25231

      #3
      I have a CD of 5 works leading with The Yellow Pages , London Sinfonietta/ Nagano, which was sent to me gratis by a very nice forumite. It may have been Gordon.
      Will give it a bit of a spin later.
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • ScotOp69
        Full Member
        • Mar 2024
        • 21

        #4
        Hello Pulcinella & Teamsaint. I think what I like about Torke is that in a desert of never ending Premieres of the same old plethora of Atonal shite I've been hearing for the past 35 years, his music is still Tonal (& highly rhythmic). He might not be everyone's cup of tea though. Try his "An American Abroad" (written for the RSNO) or his Saxophone Concerto. At the end of the day he's harmless & entertaining. For me anyway.

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        • french frank
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          • Feb 2007
          • 30511

          #5
          It looks as if he turns up every 4-6 months on R3, in short bursts, mainly one of the Colors, though Being turned up twice (first Part 3, second Part 6 - this is R3 after all) in 2022.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • ScotOp69
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            • Mar 2024
            • 21

            #6
            Cheers French Frank. I must confess I don't listen to any Radio at all. Incl Radio 3. I just came on here because loving Classical Music in Glasgow is a lonely passion. I wish there were still recorded music societies around but I think they've all died out. I would have been in my element!

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37854

              #7
              Originally posted by ScotOp69 View Post
              Hello Pulcinella & Teamsaint. I think what I like about Torke is that in a desert of never ending Premieres of the same old plethora of Atonal shite I've been hearing for the past 35 years, his music is still Tonal (& highly rhythmic). He might not be everyone's cup of tea though. Try his "An American Abroad" (written for the RSNO) or his Saxophone Concerto. At the end of the day he's harmless & entertaining. For me anyway.
              One wonders what "atonal shite" that might have been. Was it "shite" because it was "atonal"?

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              • crb11
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                • Jan 2011
                • 175

                #8
                Fiji was played as the interval music for the evening concert on 12 March, and I thought it was fun enough to listen to a second time. Characterful and rhythmic. I'll try following up some of the suggestions above.

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                • smittims
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                  • Aug 2022
                  • 4391

                  #9
                  I've heard some of Torke's music once or twice, not enought to be able to give an opinion of his whole output or his quality as a composer. My impression was that he is a skilful and knowledgable composer who knows what he wants and gets it effectively, but whose range of expression may be more limited than I would look for ; in other words he's closer to Judith Weir than to Huw Watkins. .

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                  • Serial_Apologist
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37854

                    #10
                    Originally posted by smittims View Post
                    I've heard some of Torke's music once or twice, not enought to be able to give an opinion of his whole output or his quality as a composer. My impression was that he is a skilful and knowledgable composer who knows what he wants and gets it effectively, but whose range of expression may be more limited than I would look for ; in other words he's closer to Judith Weir than to Huw Watkins. .


                    I wonder what the stylistically rather demure Judith Weir would make of that!!!

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                    • Pulcinella
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                      • Feb 2014
                      • 11114

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post



                      I wonder what the stylistically rather demure Judith Weir would make of that!!!
                      I can't imagine Torke writing Illuminare, Jerusalem, but maybe I do him a disservice.

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                      • smittims
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                        • Aug 2022
                        • 4391

                        #12
                        Yes, I think so. From what I've heard of both composers, I consider them roughly on the same level of inventiveness.

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                        • edashtav
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                          • Jul 2012
                          • 3672

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ScotOp69 View Post
                          Hello Pulcinella & Teamsaint. I think what I like about Torke is that in a desert of never ending Premieres of the same old plethora of Atonal shite I've been hearing for the past 35 years, his music is still Tonal (& highly rhythmic). He might not be everyone's cup of tea though. Try his "An American Abroad" (written for the RSNO) or his Saxophone Concerto. At the end of the day he's harmless & entertaining. For me anyway.
                          I have quite a collection of Torke"s CDs including almost all of the works you have named. I enjoy his rhythmic vitality, his positive energy, and the structures that evolve organically and shape the direction of his works. However unlike you, I feel a sense of shame when admitting my Torke appetite. As you note, his music is still Tonal - that limits his scope. 'At the end of the day his music is harmless and entertaining' you write. True, Torke has a limited emotional palette; his music palls on repetition. In the end , I play Torke when I'm tired: too tired to really listen or engage.

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                          • ScotOp69
                            Full Member
                            • Mar 2024
                            • 21

                            #14
                            Fair enough Edashtav. You don't have to apologise or explain to me or anyone else why you enjoy this or that Composer. We are all adults here.

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                            • pastoralguy
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7816

                              #15
                              I’m listening to Torke’s piece ‘Charcoal’ just now. (Baltimore Symphony Orchestra conducted by Leonard Slatkin). IIRC, the RSNO had a relationship with Torke and would regularly perform his music.

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