Dvorak

[LeMartinPecheur]

The Dumky trio has been mentioned specifically and the piano trios generically. Permit me then a specific plug for the 3rd, F minor, Op 65. I bought a cheap Supraphon LP by the Suk Trio many moons ago, as far as I recall on the off-chance on the basis that the Dumky was pretty neat, and now would probably save it from the flames ahead of the latter.

Can't work up huge enthusiasm for the first two though...

[teamsaint]

Which one's that? I'm a tad dyslexic and opus no.s irritate me

Interesting thread, teamsaint

you would know it if you heard it.
its one of the "early funny ones."

Anyway, about COTW........

Seemed a bit disjointed today !!

[EdgeleyRob]

I've had a copy for a couple of weeks...



Much of his orchestral music I love without it being desert island fare. I tend to be a bit underwhelmed by his chamber music, though there is much I don't know; I can't bear his choral stuff I'm afraid.

That just about sums Dvorak up for me.
I love his music,it's very nice,I enjoy listening to it,but it doesn't really move me.

[Tony Halstead]

That just about sums Dvorak up for me.
I love his music,it's very nice,I enjoy listening to it,but it doesn't really move me.

In a general sense, I agree with you... 'it' - being Dvorak's total output - doesn't move me, so that, e.g. if I want to be 'moved', I don't spin 'any' Dvorak CD ( but 'any' Delius CD will indeed 'move' me).
However, if I play virtually ANY recording of the Dvorak cello concerto, whether by Rostropovich, Nelsova ( the Decca 'Ace of Clubs' one that I grew up with), Schiff, Yo-Yo Ma et al, I can never ever promise to be 'dry-eyed' at the end of the 3rd movement.
To a lesser extent this applies to the slow movement of the 'New World' Symphony, and I think that my response to that is predicated by the sheer beauty ( or not) of the instrumental sounds... if the cor anglais sounds like a strangled duck, then, forget it!

[richardfinegold]

I will most definitely revisit it!

I have the Karajan/Rostropovich DG CD. Not played it in years!

Edit: teamsaint's post on another thread reminds me that I've also got du Pre in this work!

don't care for the rostra/karajan recording my favis Maurice Gendron/Haitink/LPO

[richardfinegold]

The Dumky trio has been mentioned specifically and the piano trios generically. Permit me then a specific plug for the 3rd, F minor, Op 65. I bought a cheap Supraphon LP by the Suk Trio many moons ago, as far as I recall on the off-chance on the basis that the Dumky was pretty neat, and now would probably save it from the flames ahead of the latter.

Can't work up huge enthusiasm for the first two though...

Feel the same about the first two, but the Suk versions of the last two are special. Mine come in a packaging with their Archduke and Ghost and the two Schubert Trios and this is one of my favorite CDs.
Heifetz recorded a very exciting Op.65, although I am having difficulty remembering who the other two players were.

[Madame Suggia]

I'm very fond of The Water Goblin Op.107

[jayne lee wilson]

Quick flash through the thread again... no-one seems to have mentioned the lovely Op.81 Piano Quintet, and the String Quintet op 97. Very lovable, both.

I'll always stand by those first 4 symphonies. I think I came to love them through repeated listening (and I really do think that's all it takes...), simply because I couldn't listen to 8 or 9 anymore, and later had to ration my experiences with the fresher 5, 6, and 7 just to KEEP them fresh. If you try nothing else, go for Rozhdestvensky in 2 and Smetacek in 3.

[richardfinegold]

Quick flash through the thread again... no-one seems to have mentioned the lovely Op.81 Piano Quintet, and the String Quintet op 97. Very lovable, both.

I'll always stand by those first 4 symphonies. I think I came to love them through repeated listening (and I really do think that's all it takes...), simply because I couldn't listen to 8 or 9 anymore, and later had to ration my experiences with the fresher 5, 6, and 7 just to KEEP them fresh. If you try nothing else, go for Rozhdestvensky in 2 and Smetacek in 3.

Yes, those two works a frequent listening for me. I used to have a recording of the Quintet featuring peter Serkin, Alexander Schneider, and most of the Guarneri Quartet (then young pups) that was particularly fine.

[Pabmusic]

With a great deal of trepidation, I submit this, which is my orchestration (about 12 years ago) of the American String Quartet. I call it 'American Sinfonietta'. It has been done in public, but this is my computer performing it, with all the sound and balance problems that implies (though I've tried to make it sound OK). There's four mp4 files.

I posted some of my own music a few weeks ago, but no-one downloaded it or even commented, so i'm rather hoping this might attract someone:

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/jbofz37fpjcvl/Dvorak_Sinfonietta

[Barbirollians]

I cannot think of any Dvorak works I dislike but the choral music is that which I like the least .

[salymap]

My only big box of any composer = 40 CDs covering everything, I should think.

IfI could only spend more time on it.

Yes Piano Quintet op81 is the tops.

[Dave2002]

With a great deal of trepidation, I submit this, which is my orchestration (about 12 years ago) of the American String Quartet. I call it 'American Sinfonietta'. It has been done in public, but this is my computer performing it, with all the sound and balance problems that implies (though I've tried to make it sound OK). There's four mp4 files.

I posted some of my own music a few weeks ago, but no-one downloaded it or even commented, so i'm rather hoping this might attract someone:

http://www.mediafire.com/folder/jbof...ak_Sinfonietta

Interesting. Now I've heard the 1st movement twice today - once by the quartet (very good) on COTW, and now in your version. The limitations of the electronics show up, though give the work the flavour of some of Dvorak's works with harmonium, which I suspect is accidental. Sounds as though the intended orchestration is for strings and wind - electronic versions of bassoon, flute and clarinet being identifiable. Not sure if there is any brass or percussion intended.

Did you do this by rewriting, or were you able to streamline things using electronics plus computers? For example, now I would imagine it would be possible to download an electronic version of the score, then edit it in an appropriate tool such as Sibelius, then generate the synthesised sound using one or more computer tools. In days gone by, and possibly even today, it would have been necessary to do quite a bit of manipulation with the data, and perhaps some manual rewriting, to get the results you have achieved.

I have contemplated doing similar things myself, perhaps with piano music.

[verismissimo]

Yes, those two works a frequent listening for me. I used to have a recording of the Quintet featuring peter Serkin, Alexander Schneider, and most of the Guarneri Quartet (then young pups) that was particularly fine.

Playing that recording now, at your instigation. Absolutely lovely.

[verismissimo]

Much of his orchestral music I love without it being desert island fare.

Maybe D would occupy a higher place in the Pantheon if he'd written more sad music? Much of his best work, it seems to me, is filled with sunshine and the joy of being alive.