CotW - Big Band Jazz

[Flay]

nope...

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[Serial_Apologist]

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Yep I think those were what were on my mind.

[Rcartes]

Great contextualisation - wonder who wrote the introductions: Alyn?

That said, this ain't exactly comprehensive now, is it - not even in the US context. No Sun Ra, no JCOA, no George Russell, no Braxton Creative Music Orchestra, no Barry Guy, no Globe Unity, no Vienna Art Ensemble... Token Gil Evans, Kenny Wheeler and Maria Schneider is like saying Prokofiev is avant-garde... by downplaying it they're almost writing Modernism out of the story.

Cosmetic.......

I have to say I thought they got one thing right, in not including that ludicrous fraud Sun Ra....

[Nick Armstrong]

I think they may well be http://www.kolberg.com/products/en_G...group/888.html

Oh Flay - thanks! And thanks, S_A. Yes, I take it back, I think that must be it. When I looked up wind chimes quickly, I got tubes hanging from trees.... There are many, many kinds of wind chime, it seems......

NB that video is ten hours long

[John Wright]

Calum,

You are confusing big bands with dance bands there. That Al Bowlly recording was made with the HMV studio dance band (record label as Ray Noble and his Orchestra) in 1934. Over 20 musicians on the recording.

But for me 'big bands' didn't really start (or referred to as big bands) till the late 1930s

Paul Whiteman had a large orchestra in the late 1920s but it was a dance band not a 'big band'.

The Duke had a large orchestra in the early 1930s but it was a jazz orchestra not a 'big band'.

best wishes Salymap here is some big band music from the thirties

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

points taken but not necessarily accepted John W

they are all big bands no ... even the LSO! and Al Bowly was specifically for salymap and bugger the thread, the inadequacies or otherwise of this particular COTW deserve no further commentary ....

[John Wright]

Well the point was that 'big bands' was a term for the later swing stuff, Goodman, Miller, Basie etc. In UK big bands in the 40's were Squadronnaires, Skyrockets, and what Joe Loss, Lou Preager and Oscar Rabin became (they had 'dance band' in the 1930s).

Yeah, I was disappointed with the first 'episode' of CotW and so forgot to listen to the rest.