CotW Samuel Coleridge-Taylor

[Pabmusic]

Pleasant??? When the famine and the fever claim poor Minnehaha - you're a hard man. [part 2, perhaps you only heard the Wedding Feast?]

No - I have a recording and full scores of it all. I was commenting on Coleridge Taylor's music rather than Longfellow's poetry.

[Sean Creighton]

SC-T Network

No - I have a recording and full scores of it all. I was commenting on Coleridge Taylor's music rather than Longfellow's poetry.

The programmes were excellent. The more I listen to SC-T's music through recordings and at live performances the more I hear in them. The variety of styles is much broader than may seem apparent. In some pieces I hear what I would describe as film music even though in his day films were still silent, and also phrasing that seems more post First World War. His importance is that his music was a great successs in his life-time and it recahed hundreds and thousands of people, including through his conducting and adjudicating at Festivals all around the country. His death meant we were deprived of how he would have matured as a composer. More information can be found about him, the year long Festival in Croydon and other events, on the website of the Samuel Coleridge-Taylor Network, which I co-ordinate: https://sites.google.com/site/samuel...etaylornetwork.

[Barbirollians]

It is a crying shame that they played the overly reserved Marwood/Brabbins version of the Violin Concerto . Lorraine McAslan's account with the LPO and Nicholas Braithwaite on Lyrita is in a different league . It comes across as a gorgeous work in their hands and really gives you some idea of why this man was so highly rated by his contemporaries .

[Pabmusic]

It is a crying shame that they played the overly reserved Marwood/Brabbins version of the Violin Concerto . Lorraine McAslan's account with the LPO and Nicholas Braithwaite on Lyrita is in a different league . It comes across as a gorgeous work in their hands and really gives you some idea of why this man was so highly rated by his contemporaries .

I'll second that.

[Barbirollians]

Just listening to it now before going to bed - a lovely work splendidly recorded !

[Pabmusic]

Just listening to it now before going to bed - a lovely work splendidly recorded !

Yes it is. Coleridge Taylor had quite a reputation, didn't he? I tend to think of him as a British Joachim Raff, but there's no careful reasoning behind it.

[salymap]

I'm not buying any more CDs as I have some I haven't played yet. However, I do wish I knew more of SC-T's work, part from Hiawatha.

I am sure no-one played that just because he was black, or even came from Croydon [joke]. Sargent spent as much time and energy with his choir rehearsing the complete Hiawatha as he did on Gerontius or the B minor Mass and took it very seriously indeed. And choirs loved it and probably still do.

[Lateralthinking1]

I'm not buying any more CDs as I have some I haven't played yet. However, I do wish I knew more of SC-T's work, part from Hiawatha.

I am sure no-one played that just because he was black, or even came from Croydon [joke]. Sargent spent as much time and energy with his choir rehearsing the complete Hiawatha as he did on Gerontius or the B minor Mass and took it very seriously indeed. And choirs loved it and probably still do.

I would also like to hear more, including on the radio! It isn't clear whether Sean Creighton is still an active member but I fully agree with his comments in post 17. It was also helpful to have information about the initiative in Croydon.

This was a rare COTW in that I listened to every episode. It was interesting and informative. Coleridge-Taylor came across to me as a remarkably talented man with considerable integrity. Questions were raised in my mind about what were evidently contrasting attitudes to race in his lifetime. In his case, they didn't seem to be a huge barrier but a lot of that was probably down to him.

I do like the negro spiritual elements to his music. They are generally to the fore in what I have now selected on Spotify. However, I do like the Clarinet Quintet in F Minor too. I would both hope and expect there to be much else to enjoy.

[salymap]

See the thread 'Sumptious was the feast' about the recent programme on the complete dramatised Hiawatha trilogy.

[Anna]

See the thread 'Sumptious was the feast' about the recent programme on the complete dramatised Hiawatha trilogy.

Cannot immediately find that thread but the Music Feature about Coleridge-Taylor's Hiawatha is repeated today 12.15-1.00. Well worth a listen if you missed it before.

[salymap]

Cannot immediately find that thread but the Music Feature about Coleridge-Taylor's Hiawatha is repeated today 12.15-1.00. Well worth a listen if you missed it before.

Thanks Anna, I was going to do a heads up as I saw it was repeated today on R3 at 12.15, asyou say. Am running late though

I saw Hiawatha dramatized once, about 1955 ish but conducted by, I think, George Stratton.

I've probably mentioned this earlier on the thread but can't face the wade though it now.

bestio

[mercia]

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?6591-Sumptuous-Was-the-Feast&highlight=coleridge-taylor

[Anna]

mercia, couldn't find that thread when I searched! I have it on Decca, Orch of Welsh National Opera (Helen Field, Arthur Davies & Bryn Terfel) coupled with Variations on an African Air, RLPO. Not given it a spin for ages, put it out for listening tomorrow.

[salymap]

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...leridge-taylor

Thanks a lot mercia. Happy days.

[BBMmk2]

Beats me why Hiawatha is not at the Proms this year?