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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37928

    Sally Beamish

    I have to say what a delight Sally Beamish is proving to be this week!

    Until this series of programmes, I had only ever heard her 1995 Violin Concerto, a Proms commission iirc, and her 1998 "Between Earth and Sea", beautifully written for the flute, viola and harp combination Debussy used in his late sonata, again iirc for Aldeburgh.

    Yesterday we heard her first symphony among other delights, and today a 10-minute string quartet which will definitely bear repeated listening.

    I seem at last to have found someone for whom I have been waiting now more than 2 decades: a new modernist composer whose music acknowledges her great modernist predecessors - she has referred to Tippett and Berio. She strikes me as one of the few composers to have emerged since the mid-70s who fully embraces the expressive oportunities atonality opened up, this now informing her more tonally-orientated pieces (such as those heard today) with the expanded musical universe therein revealed, rather after the manner of the great late Nicholas Maw.

    It is interesting that Ms Beamish has taken to jazz - the one form (apart from free improvisation) in which I feel the language of music to be still evolving - and if there is anything that appears anomalous in her story, I am surprised that the genre had earlier escaped her notice, and that she had found it necessary to study under Branford Marsalis, when Scotland, where she has chosen to live, offers so much in terms of an indigenous jazz scene, having absorbed folk idioms without resort to the American approach and vernacular.

    S-A
  • Norfolk Born

    #2
    I'm certainly enjoying CotW, and making some enjoyable musical discoveries.

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    • amateur51

      #3
      Thanks for this reminder/encouragement to listen, mes chums

      I'll tune in once I've got Marr on Hockney and Bragg on Class off my 'list of things to catch up on', this evening I hope.

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      • aka Calum Da Jazbo
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 9173

        #4
        caught ms Beamish in the car as it were what a delightful person, like you S_A i felt here was a composer i could take seriously ...

        and amateur51 the Marr Hockney is wonderful ..... not so sure about Melvyn ....
        According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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        • Chris Newman
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 2100

          #5
          Excellent CotW. Much enjoying her music....and Andrew Marr's Hockney.

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          • Norfolk Born

            #6
            Just finished listening to the 2nd viola concerto - a lot to take in at one hearing, but a fascinating work.

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            • amateur51

              #7
              Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
              caught ms Beamish in the car as it were what a delightful person, like you S_A i felt here was a composer i could take seriously ...

              and amateur51 the Marr Hockney is wonderful ..... not so sure about Melvyn ....
              In complete agreement wwitgh you & Chris about the Marr/Hockney programme, Calum. I've been fortunate to go to the exhibition twice now & it really has stayed with me. Hockney is so clear about what/why he's doing what he's doing and Marr seemed to get good stuff from him. I loved the way Hockney kept looking into the camera - naughty boy! Ibnspiratioinal stuff.

              In contrast I felt that Melvyn's programme was a bit same old, same old. Almost a radio programme with added pictures/film. But he's a bundle of energy too - maybe the second prog is better - and of course perhaps our age group is not his target audience - aaaah right

              Still not started on Sally Beamish but perhaps this evening??
              Last edited by Guest; 29-02-12, 22:18. Reason: stoopid goof

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37928

                #8
                Originally posted by Norfolk Born View Post
                Just finished listening to the 2nd viola concerto - a lot to take in at one hearing, but a fascinating work.
                I thought just the opposite, NB, for a work which is basically non-tonal in idiom. The main motif is clearly made memorable by virtue of frequent transposition, virtually unaltered in the first movement; subsequently things get a bit more involved, but never at the expense of sensing underlying coherence or lyrical clarity.

                Something I have complained about before re COTW is lack of dates and chronology - I have had to check several sites to find out dates of composition for the works so far illustrated, which the exception of one, where we were informed; and without going into technical minutiae I would personally appreciate rather more information about how the composers actually go about composing their music - does Sally Beamish employ tone rows, for example? While from the pov of getting acquainted it is always good to get told about friends, relations, inspirations and events - and Donald Macleod's courteousness and genuine interest in the subjects is praiseworthy - it is almost as though creative detail, which was once very much included in introductions to new music - has now become elevated to some realm of secret, lofty confidentiality, non-divulgeable to the untrained listener.

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                • Quarky
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 2674

                  #9
                  Add my voice to this general approbation.

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                  • Norfolk Born

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    I thought just the opposite, NB, for a work which is basically non-tonal in idiom. The main motif is clearly made memorable by virtue of frequent transposition, virtually unaltered in the first movement; subsequently things get a bit more involved, but never at the expense of sensing underlying coherence or lyrical clarity.

                    Something I have complained about before re COTW is lack of dates and chronology - I have had to check several sites to find out dates of composition for the works so far illustrated, which the exception of one, where we were informed; and without going into technical minutiae I would personally appreciate rather more information about how the composers actually go about composing their music - does Sally Beamish employ tone rows, for example? While from the pov of getting acquainted it is always good to get told about friends, relations, inspirations and events - and Donald Macleod's courteousness and genuine interest in the subjects is praiseworthy - it is almost as though creative detail, which was once very much included in introductions to new music - has now become elevated to some realm of secret, lofty confidentiality, non-divulgeable to the untrained listener.
                    I'm not qualified (seriously - in any sense of the word) to judge her music in such terms and in such detail. I just found quite a lot of it intriguing and attractive enough to engage my attention and engender a desire to listen again.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26598

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Norfolk Born View Post
                      I'm not qualified (seriously - in any sense of the word) to judge her music in such terms and in such detail. I just found quite a lot of it intriguing and attractive enough to engage my attention and engender a desire to listen again.
                      My reaction was the same norfs Although I wasn't in the mood for the 'imaginary sun on stones' piece last night...
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22225

                        #12
                        Caught Debussy, arr. Beamish: Suite for cello and orchestra a week or three back on Po3 - very interesting arrangements.

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                        • Wallace

                          #13
                          As others have said, this series of 5 programmes was a delight. Public service broadcasting at its best. I knew almost nothing about her and her work before the programmes and I was left at the end wanting to know more and certainly wanting to explore more of her music. Donald Macleod did a first rate job of interviewing. It appears to bring us to the end of the series of programms on British composers. The highlights for me were Simon Heffer (I don't care for his politics but he can present a good programme) on Saturday afternoons and this week's CotW. I do feel that 2 hours a week on R3 devoted to music from British composers could and should be justified.

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                          • Roehre

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            Caught Debussy, arr. Beamish: Suite for cello and orchestra a week or three back on Po3 - very interesting arrangements.
                            Especially as the majority of the pieces selected for arrangement (and the completion of an original cello piece-fragment by Debussy) are early pieces of Debussy's, including iirc his earliest published song.
                            Hopefully BIS will record this arrangement together with some other works of hers - BIS being nearly the only record company to issue CDs with work of hers.

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                            • Quarky
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 2674

                              #15
                              "It is interesting that Ms Beamish has taken to jazz - the one form (apart from free improvisation) in which I feel the language of music to be still evolving -"

                              Well no doubt she has done, and I will have to listen some more, but the music presented in COTW (e.g. Bridge) is at such a high intellectual level that one wonders whether applying the epithet "jazz" to it, is at all helpful. If it is Jazz, it is a hipless form of Jazz.

                              This is Jazz as far as I am concerned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8q6sR6yZCE

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