Ruth Gipps (1921-1999)

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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
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    Ruth Gipps (1921-1999)

    This week (Monday 8 - Friday 12 March 2021)

    A composer of that Malcolm Arnold generation of British composers which gets little airing on the wireless or concert billings, so this is a wonderful chance to assess her music, which I, for one, would like to know more about.

    A woman of striking looks. Follow through from here:

  • antongould
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    This week (Monday 8 - Friday 12 March 2021)

    A composer of that Malcolm Arnold generation of British composers which gets little airing on the wireless or concert billings, so this is a wonderful chance to assess her music, which I, for one, would like to know more about.

    A woman of striking looks. Follow through from here:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000sxzh
    Looking forward to it S_A

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    • DracoM
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      • Mar 2007
      • 12994

      #3

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      • Richard Barrett
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        • Jan 2016
        • 6259

        #4
        From S-A's BBC link: "She regarded 12-tone music, serial music, electronic music and avant-garde music as utter rubbish." Why even bother to put that into a brief profile?

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        • Nick Armstrong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 26575

          #5
          Originally posted by antongould View Post
          Looking forward to it S_A

          Enjoying the first one!

          I see there are two of her symphonies on R3 today too....
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
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            #6
            Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
            From S-A's BBC link: "She regarded 12-tone music, serial music, electronic music and avant-garde music as utter rubbish." Why even bother to put that into a brief profile?
            Yes - it's the usual unprepared shouty rhetoric one is coming to "accept" these days from a Radio 3 commentariat that more than suggests sympathy for that viewpoint, rather than leaving the composer's unfolding narrative in Donald's capable hands... hopefully...

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

              Enjoying the first one!

              I see there are two of her symphonies on R3 today too....
              I did enjoy No 3 from this afternoon's concert, I have to admit, while at the same time acknowledging that until I checked I assumed it must have been composed about 30 years earlier than the actual year. I am clearly sinking into a pit of undiluted nostalgia for a lost England of Tudorbethan frontages and dancing Morris Minors in metroland, and there is no hope for me.

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              • Nick Armstrong
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                • Nov 2010
                • 26575

                #8
                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                I did enjoy No 3 from this afternoon's concert, I have to admit, while at the same time acknowledging that until I checked I assumed it must have been composed about 30 years earlier than the actual year. I am clearly sinking into a pit of undiluted nostalgia for a lost England of Tudorbethan frontages and dancing Morris Minors in metroland, and there is no hope for me.
                Welcome, do come in, the ale’s nice and warm
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                  Welcome, do come in, the ale’s nice and warm

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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
                    • 11113

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                    From S-A's BBC link: "She regarded 12-tone music, serial music, electronic music and avant-garde music as utter rubbish." Why even bother to put that into a brief profile?
                    Taken a bit out of context, though, Richard.
                    The whole paragraph is:

                    Publicly outspoken, Gipps remained firmly anti-modernist. She regarded 12-tone music, serial music, electronic music and avant-garde music as utter rubbish. From the late 1950s the musical establishment felt her music was out of step with the times, and they bypassed her work. She did have some admirers, including Sir Arthur Bliss, whom she had first met in 1942, who continued to support and admire her music but in general it fell to her own resourcefulness to get her music heard, arranging performances, which she would then conduct with her own orchestras.

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                    • Ein Heldenleben
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                      • Apr 2014
                      • 6962

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                      From S-A's BBC link: "She regarded 12-tone music, serial music, electronic music and avant-garde music as utter rubbish." Why even bother to put that into a brief profile?
                      Whatever she thought of serialism she was clearly , listening to this symphony, a big fan of Ralph Vaughan Williams.

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                      • Bryn
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                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                        Whatever she thought of serialism she was clearly , listening to this symphony, a big fan of Ralph Vaughan Williams.
                        Well, she was a student of his, after all.

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                        • Edgy 2
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                          • Jan 2019
                          • 2035

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          Well, she was a student of his, after all.
                          Also from the COTW blurb

                          A composition pupil of Vaughan Williams, Gipps defined her music as, “a follow-on from her teacher, Bliss and Walton"
                          “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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                          • Edgy 2
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                            • Jan 2019
                            • 2035

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                            Taken a bit out of context, though, Richard.:
                            I bet someone at the BBC couldn't wait to get that 2nd sentence in though
                            “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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                            • Ein Heldenleben
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                              • Apr 2014
                              • 6962

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              Well, she was a student of his, after all.
                              Yes and also a pupil of Gordon Jacob

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