Ludwig van Beethoven (1770 - 1827)

[Serial_Apologist]

That was the point at which I switched off.

No need for a diatribe, your post said it all ferney

Twenty-five weeks of this....

Yet another safe space on R3 gone, if this programme was anything to go by.



As a man once said...

Absolutely!!! Well said, this man!

[Ein Heldenleben]

The problem is that there are so many fresh perspectives on Beethoven ( eg Beethoven Hero ) and I have such a stack of unread Beethoven tomes ( haven’t read Thayer , haven’t read Solomon for ages) why waste time on people who aren’t really LVB experts...

[Bryn]

The problem is that there are so many fresh perspectives on Beethoven ( eg Beethoven Hero ) and I have such a stack of unread Beethoven tomes ( haven’t read Thayer , haven’t read Solomon for ages) why waste time on people who aren’t really LVB experts...

How about Frida Knight's "Beethoven and the Age of Revolution"? I recall how, when the Chinese Communist Party held its campaign against Confucius back in the early 1970s, she wondered whether she should reconsider her work on Beethoven. I think (hope) her tongue was cleft firm to her cheek.

[Ein Heldenleben]

How about Frida Knight's "Beethoven and the Age of Revolution"? I recall how, when the Chinese Communist Party held its campaign against Confucius back in the early 1970s, she wondered whether she should reconsider her work on Beethoven. I think (hope) her tongue was cleft firm to her cheek.

And that’s another one I haven’t read ...there’s no end to it...

[kernelbogey]

I have un-started, and deleted, a second thread for this series, thinking on reflection that a single thread will do for the whole series.

The introduction to the thread will change to reflect the next/current COTW Beethoven topic.

[kernelbogey]

Bumping this up - new week of LvB programmes this week (see OP for detail).

[kernelbogey]

Looking forward to whether Donald Macleod is doing this week solo, or whether he will have pundits aboard. (No hint in today's blurb.)

[kernelbogey]

COTW on LvB has this week reverted to form, and Donald Macleod has been recounting tales of Ludwig's early years, with examples of his music, not necessarily early, to match the narrative. Tomorrow, Wednesday, the programme surveys Beethoven's connection to the development of the piano during his lifetime.

[Nick Armstrong]

Yes, normal service resumed, thankfully

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Yes, normal service resumed, thankfully

When you say "Service" ... ???

[Quarky]

Some years ago, I visited the Beethoven museum in Bonn, where was exhibited (to the best of my recollection) one of Beethoven's pianos, made by a Britisher, was it Taylor? (I can't find confirmation of that at the moment.)

Anyway I would love to hear his music played on a contemporary instrument of that period, rather than a modern state of the art Grand.

[Petrushka]

Some years ago, I visited the Beethoven museum in Bonn, where was exhibited (to the best of my recollection) one of Beethoven's pianos, made by a Britisher, was it Taylor? (I can't find confirmation of that at the moment.)

Anyway I would love to hear his music played on a contemporary instrument of that period, rather than a modern state of the art Grand.

I've not been to the Beethoven Museum in Bonn but I can fully recommend a visit to Probusgasse 6 in Heiligenstadt, Vienna. I last went in 2008 and I believe that it's been updated and refurbished since then.

https://www.wien.info/en/music-stage-shows/city-of-music/beethoven-memorials

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Broadwood was the London piano makers who gave Beethoven one of their pianos, which he greatly admired - only, IIRC, Graf made superior instruments in his judgement, and it is a Graf instrument (the last piano he was given) that is on permanent exhibition in the Beethoven-Haus museum

https://www.beethoven.de/en/museum

[LMcD]

Some years ago, I visited the Beethoven museum in Bonn, where was exhibited (to the best of my recollection) one of Beethoven's pianos, made by a Britisher, was it Taylor? (I can't find confirmation of that at the moment.)

Anyway I would love to hear his music played on a contemporary instrument of that period, rather than a modern state of the art Grand.

Thomas Broadwood gave Beethoven a piano in 1817.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Thomas Broadwood gave Beethoven a piano in 1817.

- that very instrument is on display in the Hungarian National Museum, and not infrequently used in recitals there.

https://mnm.hu/en/events/muzeumi-elet/kismarton-trio-summers-eve-concert