Ludwig van Beethoven (1770 - 1827)

[cloughie]

I have spent a lot of time over the years listening to LvB’s great musical output and maybe I would like to explore some works more thoroughly but I have a strong feeling that by the end of 2020 his can(n)on will have been well and truly fired and I may find myself dodging the balls. Maybe it is age and the evolution of my listening but I’m not as thrilled as was with the WAM year in 1991.

[gurnemanz]

One pleasant discovery for me (found in a street market stall here in France) was a big box of the Scottish, Irish and Welsh folksongs recorded for the DG anniversary series some years ago with Malcolm Martineau as the pianist. Delightful.

I picked up these miscellaneous song settings via the 100CD Brilliant Classics Beethoven box a few years ago. Very good and complete and now available quite cheaply on a 6CD set special offer at Presto.

[MickyD]

I picked up these miscellaneous song settings via the 100CD Brilliant Classics Beethoven box a few years ago. Very good and complete and now available quite cheaply on a 6CD set special offer at Presto.

OK...but the performers are not the same as the ones as those in the original DG set.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

OK...but the performers are not the same as the ones as those in the original DG set.

Nor, I should have said, are those in the Warner Box, which are all new recordings.

[Bryn]

Nor, I should have said, are those in the Warner Box, which are all new recordings.

There is a single disc of some of these songs in the Sony "Beethoven Complete Masterpieces" box:

[John Wright]

I recall a R3 Beethoven-only week back in 2005, I still have CDs of music that I recorded onto my PC

https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/bbc-radio-3-clear-schedule-week-beethoven/230909

[pastoralguy]

I recall a R3 Beethoven-only week back in 2005, I still have CDs of music that I recorded onto my PC

https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/artic...ethoven/230909

I was off work with flu and couldn't sleep so I recorded the whole week on mini-disc! I think I lost about 30 minutes the whole time which was pretty good going. Alas, they've lived in a shoe-box in anticipation of the great time when I'll actually have time to listen to them. I've still got the Radio Times for reference. I did think of putting them on eBay but I dread to think of the copyright issues I'd infringe!

[Bryn]

I was off work with flu and couldn't sleep so I recorded the whole week on mini-disc! I think I lost about 30 minutes the whole time which was pretty good going. Alas, they've lived in a shoe-box in anticipation of the great time when I'll actually have time to listen to them. I've still got the Radio Times for reference. I did think of putting them on eBay but I dread to think of the copyright issues I'd infringe!

I saved the whole lot from DAB in native mp2 format. The occasional change from 192kbps to 160kbps did cause short-term disruption when it occurred, notable in the 'live' performance of Wellingtons Seig . . .

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

If it is done properly (big "if", I know)

Too much to ask, it seems. What's the point of continually describing Beethoven in terms like "a metaphor for humanity", if you're not going to offer some explanation of what he does with Music that makes him such a "metaphor" - it just deteriorates into an empty, hot-aired way of saying "I like his Music". And the Essentially Crassic, Mrs Trellis of North Wales autobiographical comments about how a listener's dog reacted to a piece is no less crass when it's a famous conductor making them.

And then a Movement from a String Quartet (performers not mentioned), a movement from a Symphony (a different movement from a different recording from the one just mentioned by the enthusiast), a movement from a different S4tet. Surely if you're going to pay Simon Schama and Marin Alsop a fee (each), you can get them to discuss Beethoven's way of thinking far better than this, and yet still in a way accessible to "ordinary" (non-specialist) listeners?

BBC - bloody idiots!

[vinteuil]

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... lordy but this is crass. Blether blether blether.

Ferney nails it




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[zola]

Oh well, only 124 to go. At least I don't have to worry about keeping up with them.

[Nick Armstrong]

....the Essentially Crassic, Mrs Trellis of North Wales autobiographical comments about how a listener's dog reacted to a piece is no less crass when it's a famous conductor making them

That was the point at which I switched off.

No need for a diatribe, your post said it all ferney

Twenty-five weeks of this....

Yet another safe space on R3 gone, if this programme was anything to go by.

BBC - bloody idiots!

As a man once said...

[eighthobstruction]

Too much to ask, it seems. What's the point of continually describing Beethoven in terms like "a metaphor for humanity", if you're not going to offer some explanation of what he does with Music that makes him such a "metaphor" - it just deteriorates into an empty, hot-aired way of saying "I like his Music". And the Essentially Crassic, Mrs Trellis of North Wales autobiographical comments about how a listener's dog reacted to a piece is no less crass when it's a famous conductor making them.

And then a Movement from a String Quartet (performers not mentioned), a movement from a Symphony (a different movement from a different recording from the one just mentioned by the enthusiast), a movement from a different S4tet. Surely if you're going to pay Simon Schama and Marin Alsop a fee (each), you can get them to discuss Beethoven's way of thinking far better than this, and yet still in a way accessible to "ordinary" (non-specialist) listeners?

BBC - bloody idiots!

....cacatopia....yeah sod off....if i may say so....

ed: Ere that ferney is a right metaphor for humanity....I don't think I am, but I try....

unfortunately I'm a terrible bad bad man https://www.roger-scruton.com/about/...what-is-a-tune

[kernelbogey]

Despite having set an alarm on my phone, I missed the first 25 minutes. And am shocked by the reactions of my fellow boarders - and hosts, to boot! I shall listen to the missing 25 minutes before today's episode... and reserve judgment to the end of the week.

[Bella Kemp]

Well I'm greatly enjoying each episode.